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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 8:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I bought the 3D DVDs from Slingshot.
There's an heavy flicker on my TV set (PAL 50Hz).
Is there any way to enjoy them at 100/120 Hz directly (without re-mastering the video stream on the DVD)?
I read about PowerDVD player ... does is really work?
What kind of shutterglasses do I need?
And what kind of drivers?
Any other suggestion?
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mart

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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 8:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

What shutter glasses do you use for TV? If you have H3D glasses from www.i-glasses.com then you can buy the gaming dongle ($29.95) for use with your PC.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 10:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

They are the old ones that came with the Nu-View attachment.
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Giorgio Bogoni

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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I got a crazy idea.
Never tried of course.
If you connect your stand alone DVD player to the video-in of your graphic board (if you have one) and look at the incoming interlaced video stream in the capture window wearing shutterglasses for PC (connected throght the VGA cable) ... it may work.
Or not?
Giorgio.
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Ged

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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The glasses that come with the NuView are H3D glasses and can be used with the H3D Gaming Dongle.

Take a look at the following page

http://www.i-glasses.com/Doc_file/MA2313.doc

Ged
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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 4:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Not mine!
I've been one of the first customer of the Nu-View attachment.
I received the Spex ones.
Thanks anyway
Has anyone tried the video-in with the DVD player? Does it really work?
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VRJUNKIE

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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You watched the DVDs via PAL 50hz? I was told this was impossible? Can you elaborate?

-VR
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 8:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Many modern PAL TVs can show NTSC at 60Hz, input has to be via the Scart/RCA input. I know my 7 year old Toshiba does.
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Giorgio Bogoni

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Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I played the 3D DVDs with my PAL PS2, it can read NTSC and output 50 Hz PAL for my TV set (and you can enjoy a static 3D image too in pause mode).
Heavy flicker for me too of course ...
Giorgio.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

It is possible if the PAL DVD player treats the frames right, i.e. keeps left and right field intact and just throws away 1/6th of the full frames.

When I set my DVD player to PAL output and play a MPEG-2-interlaced NTSC disc it throws away all B-fields plus 1/6th of the rest. In other words if I play a 3D-DVD in PAL I get a jerky half-res monoscopic movie.

My expectation is that many (most?) DVD players will do something dirty in NTSC-to-PAL mode which kills the stereo.

Some players allow NTSC-to-PAL60 mode which should work for stereo, but a TV-set which allows PAL60 should handle NTSC anyway.

Christoph
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Ryan

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Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I'm not all that sure that you'd have much success hooking to the video in on your PC. Its my guess that the videos page flip, so there's a frame for each eye. If this is the case, the dvd would have to be re-encoded to run at a higher frame rate (the higher refresh rate doesn't help if its just refreshing the same image). Come to think of it, it could mess up the 3D effect, if your glasses are flipping in sync with your refresh, and not the frames of the movie.

Could be wrong though, worth trying. Let us know!
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 1:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I've hooked up the h3d system to my HDTV and I am getting a crystal clear picture with almost NO flicker whatsoever. You must have a dvd player with progressive scan outputs and a Digital television. This was with the slingshot 3d dvd's.
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M.H.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 10:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Colud you, plese, give use detailed specification
of your TV abd DVD ?
Are you sure that your TV runs in 100/120 Hz
mode (I do not belive it).
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 1:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

dont know what the refresh rate is but I have a toshiba 65h80 dtv and pioneer dv-434. I am using the component inputs. There are three wires, red,blue and green. I am using the green line for the connection.
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M.H.

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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

It does not look like this projection TV work
at 100/120 Hz. Could you compare the flickering
with stereoscopic output from a 100/120Hz
computer monitor ?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I've been using stereoscopic 3D on my computer and TV for many years now. The most impressive example I've ever seen is probably stereoscopic quake. The detail was amazing and there was no flicker. The 3D effects in this game just blew me away, like it did many of you I'm sure.
Than I was able to wire my home theater in a way that it was displaying 3D in progressive scan DVD mode. The picture was just stunning. There was almost no flicker at all. Reminded me of quake on the computer except the detail on the HDtv was even better. Also reminds me of Race to Atlantis IMax 3D which I saw at Cesars palace in Vegas, except there was no motion simulation. But overall, I am extremely pleased, as are all of my guests who have seen a demo.

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