| Author | Message | ||
     Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Anyone remember when simple calculators were in the thousand + dollar range. Lets hope we can laugh at how much people paid for HMDs like they once did calculators. In otherwords, hey manufactures, and you know who you are, lets get realistic and start cranking out some HMDs for the average consumer. Computer gaming is a 4 to 5 billion dollar a year business and growing. Wake up and smell the profit! Quit trying to market these things to brain surgens, the military and yuppies so they can watch movies in there first class seat during flights. No wonder you can't bring the cost down. They don't care and they don't buy. Follow the money...gamers. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Amen brutha! | ||
| John Billingham Rating: N/A |
Absolutely!!!!! And if it weren't for the "lowly" gamers, the even "lowlier" (marketwise) "Stereo-nerds" would have NOTHING! Thank You Gamers! John Billingham ( who has never played a game,but appreciates the "trickle-down" equipment) | ||
| anonymoose Rating: N/A |
The way I understand it, the cost of the LCDs is the main problem. Each of those little LCDs they use can cost as much as a full size CRT monitor with equivalent resolution, and you need two of them. Maybe one of the HMD manufacturers can chime in here - my information is just second hand. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
With the LCD for HMD's starting to come into the 100.00 range, I think the time for a "real" consumer HMD is now. The TV market is helping to drive down the cost of flat panel technology. The difficult part is convincing the manufacturers to over look the past and realize that now is the time for that one bold company to steal the market. -Kevin | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Wow. What a group. How much will you want to pay for HMD (90 degree FOV)? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
For 90 degree FOV, honestly I would consider paying up to 2500 for it brand new. I would hope that some day soon the consumer would be able to get something like this for 1000.00 to 1500.00. -Kevin | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Although we all know that 90 degree FOV is about 80k. (Kaiser Electro-Optics Sim Eye XL100A) -Kevin | ||
| BOPrey Rating: N/A |
Kevin, Do you think the average Joe will pay $1000.00 for HMD eventhough it meets the pec (90 degree FOV at 1600x1200)? On the other hand, I just recieved my i-Glasses HMD with InterTrax2. It is great to watch movies, just OK for game play, and it is a little bit too heavy on my forhead eventhough it only weights about 8oz. The InterTrax2 is good, it comes with JoyStick emulation (good for FS2002), and mouse emulation(good for games with mouse panning). For my favor game Falcon, it came with a SDK with which I spent 15 minutes wrote a small app to input the tracking info into the game. It works great. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
No they wont. Thats the point. -Kevin | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I believe they will! I know I would! | ||
| BOPrey Rating: N/A |
For the mass market. I think $499 is the breaking point. For early adopters, $500 to $700 range. Remember how much 17" monitors cost in the first few year they came out. | ||
| Jackthe3rd Rating: N/A |
This is for BOPrey. I've read this board for over a year now, waiting to read announcements that a good quality affordable HMD is finally ready to hit the market. The main reason I'm attracted to HMDs is that I wish to use it with Falcon 4. I see you use one yourself, with a head tracker, to fly Falcon 4. I really would appreciate to read more about your experience. Can you actually scan the sky and padlock an object by turning your head? Feel free to contact me by email. As to the main question, I am an average Joe, and I would spend $1,000 to purchase a good quality HMD. Up to $1,500 after a beer or two. | ||
| John Winningham Rating: N/A |
I know many people who spent >$800 buying 15" LCD monitors. An HMD which has a bigger screen and more capabilities? I think $1000 will be the cut off for average Joe. For hardcore gamers and stereo nuts, $1250-$1500. | ||
| BOPrey Rating: N/A |
To John Winningham, And how many "...hardcore gammers and stereo nuts..." are there in the world so that the manufacturer think they make a lot of money from them? | ||
| BOPrey Rating: N/A |
Jackthe3rd, I can't really say i-glasses is very good for gaming. It is an OK unit and I don't believe there is any thing better than it out there even if you have the money. As for the InterTrax2 which I attached to the i-glasses, allows me to look around in Falcon 4's 3D cockpit, and I can eyeball and follow the target around me. You don't have to press the padlock key, just move your head and follow the target. You can find my review here. I am under kx2us in the Falcon forum. http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36416 | ||
| John Winningham Rating: N/A |
BOPrey (#1): Where there is money to be made, there will be one to make it. If you do not believe there are many people willing to pay very large amounts for such items you need only turn to the wild world of video cards. GeForceFX announced at $500, high demand, lots of preorders. BOPrey (#2): A WORKING set of i-glasses svga would be great for general gaming, but as always it boils down to personal taste. | ||
| BOPrey Rating: N/A |
John, Can you provide me with the soource for GFFX anouncement and preorders. Hope the reality is what you said is. As for personal taste, I guess spending $500 on a graphics card will be a personal tast as well. Take the example of IO-display's i-glasses(I have one), the stereo version is about $800. I don't know how much they put into the development, overall sales figure, and production cost, your guess is as good as mine. I don't know think they are making seriouse money on this product, and it might be prossible that they are lossing money on each unit they sell. (Anyone has inside info can comment on this) | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
You should not mention the GFFX as an example that people are willing to pay so much money for gaming equipement. Tomorrow you will know what I mean ... | ||
| BOPrey Rating: N/A |
The GFFX sucks. It is only a bit faster than the ATI 9700 pro, but for 100 more. One thing, though, ATI does not support 3D natively!! | ||
| Jared Wach Rating: N/A |
I assume, BOPrey, that your statement is somehow based on personal experience? I ask this because, according to the numbers, the geforce FX kicks the sh*t out of the 9700. Not to mention the fact that the big upgrade with the FX is not necessarily it's speed, but it's ability to handle shaders. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
We should pull for NVIDIA over ATI, seeing as NVIDIA is a firm supporter of stereo 3D and ATI's support for it sucks. A fierce battle between the two will be all the better for us consumers. NVIDIA missed a product cycle and ATI snuck in, but don't expect NVIDIA to take it laying down -- they remember too well what happened to 3DFX (especially the former 3DFXers who now work for NVIDIA). | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Jared don't patronise people (BOPrey). Read the reviews that people have done and don't make daft comments about the FX's performence. EVERY site that has reviewed the FX says its only marginally faster in only a few situations, else the 9700 pro is the fastest card. Don't forget as well that when its working its like sitting next to a loud 'dustbuster'...so if you want to hear your ganes when playing avoid. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Thought this was the thread "HMD for the average man or woman". You guys need to start your own thread. | ||
| shankha chakraborty,india Rating: N/A |
would any one describe me how they project a virtual large screen from the smal l.c.d.screens? a ray diagram would say a lot.Please help!send me a mail please! shankha1980@rediffmail.com | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/image4.html | ||
| macca Rating: N/A |
150 quid for stereo hmd with 'look around' but not 'walk around' head tracking. I look to the console manufacturers to do this. computers are just a testing ground for new tech. |
