| Author | Message | ||
     JJ Rating: N/A |
I cant get the 3DPlus demo to download from the 3DPlus site. It says 404 not found. Anyone else having this problem and is there anywhere else to get the demo? | ||
| Gabor Laufer Rating: N/A |
Don't bother. I bought the real thing. I have several upgrades, yet it is still not functioning correctly. Interesting, because there is a good 3d effect, BUT....everything is DARK all the time. The viewer already in mono, much darker than comparable DVD viewers. Switching to stereo further cuts back on the brightness for obvious reasons (only half the picture). Add to that the LCD glass somewhat brightness decreasing feature and what you end up with is a perpetually dark picture, except very bright scenes in the first place. In other words, it is not usable. I complained to the company several times, they state that "we are aware of the problem, the next patch will fix it", but so far none of the patches even addressed this issue. What further makes the situation hopeless, that adjusting the picture on the Windows level, brightens everything up EXCEPT the picture in the 3DPlus display window. Gabor | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
The 3dplus like most DVD players uses overlay video so you need a video card that has a driver with overlay brightness/contrast adjustment controls. Software only overlay controls would slow down performance | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Try increasing the brightness control on your monitor, or maybe your monitor is very poor. | ||
| C Rating: N/A |
Back on topic, does anyone know where to ge the demo? I'm interested in seeing if it actually works at all. | ||
| Gabor Laufer Rating: N/A |
Dear "Anonymous", The 3dplus like most DVD players uses overlay video so you need a video card that has a driver with overlay brightness/contrast adjustment controls. Software only overlay controls would slow down performance The company should have put a warning to the website salespitch, that "buy this product only, of you have a video card that has a driver....." C'mmon. That reminds me a few years back a to a computer game, where the manual started with the following lines (from memory):"if this game runs poorly on your computer, you may have to buy a new computer". Yeah, right. I will buy a new computer for $3000, so I can run a $29.95 program on it. I have Geoforce 3, T500 card, I am reasonably technically inclined, but I don't know what a driver with overlay control is. I know that the setting, where I can change the videocard brightness, doesn't help. I know that the videocard is a rather standard, good quality one. Furthermore, if THAT is the case (what you are telling), why didn't the support person told me that? Why did he wrote that they are aware of the problem and will fix it? It's called poor service and let's sell the product before it is ready. Try increasing the brightness control on your monitor, or maybe your monitor is very poor. It sounds almost like you are from edimensional. My monitor maybe poor, but it is good for absolutely everything else, from internet to games to many other applications, among them, stereo 3d photography and films. The one and only program which runs dark, is 3Dplus2. I very very seriously doubt that error is on my side. If you are from edimensional, spread the word, that the way it is, the program will never become popular. Software only overlay controls would slow down performance The brightness adjustment wouldn't have to be "live" while the program is running. It could be a setting, which can be adjusted before. Gabor | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I have no idea what overlay is either and my 3Dplus works just fine. i don't think you honestly have to know about that just to use the program and no one is telling you to buy a new computer or anything, just giving you tips. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
3dplus will fix it they are trying to improve the performance with the brightness control implemented before release. Just be patient, ask them to email you when updates are available. It will happen, it still works so you got what you paid for and improvements for no extra money are on the way keep smiling. | ||
| Gabor Laufer Rating: N/A |
Dear Anonymous, 3dplus will fix it they are trying to improve the performance with the brightness control implemented before release. Just be patient, ask them to email you when updates are available. It will happen, it still works so you got what you paid for and improvements for no extra money are on the way keep smiling. It doesn't work and I didn't get what I paid for. It is fascinating that companies which put money in the 3d concept, don't see why so many of them bit the dust and went under. Gabor | ||
| giofx Rating: N/A |
valid links are only in the korean download page: http://3dplus.ssc.co.kr/SSC_KH/index.htm :-( | ||
| Gabor Laufer Rating: N/A |
Why stereoscopic 3d still not very popular....the saga continues. I bought 3DPlus2 last October. It drove me crazy that everything was VERY DARK. I wrote to the company (eDimensional), describing my hardware exactly. I got a very polite answer, telling that they are aware of the problem and working on the upgrade to fix it. Upgrade one, upgrade two, the issue wasn't even mentioned, let alone fixed. I wrote again, pretty much the same answer. Be patient, will be fixed. Meanwhile of course, the program was utterly useless, because of the darkness. On May 1, I wrote the message here, the second message from the top. A Mr. Anonymous answered and talked about some "overlay control", and I was not familiar with the concept. Then I got that spectacular Scuba Diving 3d pictures collection I mentioned in another topic, and I exchanged email with the seller who lives in Germany. He recommended (independently from any of this) a utility called Powerstrip (for graphic control). I downloaded it, and indeed it is a fantastic utility (worth the short download). I was impressed with many features of the nVidia card, which we users never knew about, at least they were not announced in any everyday instructions. And that is when I got the idea, to write to those who wrote Powerstrip. If they know so very much about graphic cards, maybe they know the solution to the 3dPlus2 problem. Back came the response: just click on Settings, Advanced, Geoforce, Additional Properties, Overlay Controls, and just set it brighter. I almost fell out the chair, it WORKED. Over half a year worth of back and forth communication with eDimensional could not produce this one line. Food for thought. ---------------------------------------------- Of course, any hardware wizard, or people who make a point out of exploring every menu item in every driver, would know that. I am quite experienced in the world of computers, but rather on the application side, not the hardware side. eDimensional have no reason to assume, that everone who buys that program, would know every little detail about their hardware. The program (3dPlus2) comes absolutely without any help file. For $49.95 you can download a little over 3MB file, which installs the program itself and that's it. An even less experienced person would have never even got to the point of keep looking around, just forget about the program and never buy anything from eDimensional, or perhaps anything 3d stereoscopic. That is one of the reason so many company comes and goes in the world of 3d. ----------------------------------------------- Now that I can set the brightness: 3dPlus2 is "not bad". It is not good either, but I didn't really expect much more from it. Of course it isn't really 3d, but movies which were never intended to be 3d, does have a little extra dimension. I could say they are 2.4D. The more movement on the screen, the more 3d it is, seldom truly 3d, but for 3d maniacs like myself, heck.....I blew money before for worse things. One irritating factor: the constant change of 2d-3d and in between produces a weird effect, I can see that some people would get a headache real fast from it. It doesn't do pageflipping, it is either over-under or interlaced. If it would sell for $19.95, I may even recommend it. Not for 50 bucks and such a poor technical support. Gabor | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Rating: N/A |
It is hard enough to explain the difference between 2D and stereo3D (or even worse between 3D games and stereo3D games) to the general public. How do you explain a product like 3DPlus to a 3D-illiterate? How do you advertise such a product without lying? My position is that all kinds of fake/converted 3D is hurting the 3D-market in the long run. Christoph | ||
| Mike Rating: N/A |
I agree with Christoph, 3DPlus does leave a bad taste in your mouth and should not be promoted as real stereo3D. Mike | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Is there any software out there that will convert 2d to real 3d video? | ||
| C Rating: N/A |
Duh, that's what 3dplus is. Cristoph and Mike mean that any 2d to real 3d converter can't be all that good... nothing can unless the video is recorded as 3d. Read please. What I want is a demo of 3dplus2, 3dplus1 is useless to me. I want mpeg2/dvd support! | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Try StereoMovie Maker freeware http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/ it can open DVD VOB's you'll probably need to rip company encrypted VOB's to your hard disk with Smart Ripper. In StereoMovie Maker open the same VOB twice as Left and then again as Right movie Then on Frame Advance advance frames twice Then click play stereo movie. The result will play 2d to 3d but the sound will be totally out of wack. But if your video card supports Winx3d you can pageflip it. Voila It's a poor man's 3dplus. | ||
| jesper Rating: N/A |
Hello. This was the best tip I've ever read on this board. This is very interesting, since it's free and the 3d is ok. I guess it's sort of the same 3d quality as 3dplus. I've tried little and it works very well in interlaced mode but how do I go about it if I want it to work in pageflipping mode. What is this winx3d? Is there any way one can get a bigger picture in the program? Thanks again for the tip. Jesper | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Winx3d can be got at http://www.win3d.com/win3d95lib.htm It only can be used with a handful of older video cards. It wouldn't recognise the chipset of my Geforce4. Try it but if it doesn't recognise your video card uninstall it by running the install program again. Winx3d are very slow to add new cards to their compatible list, but keep your eye open for new versions. | ||
| Brian Jones Rating: N/A |
I bought 3Dplus 2.0 last week and love it. The 3D works great if the camera is focused if not there is no 3D. I watch my movies and if 3D comes out great if not no harm. Hint! Enjoy it and don't just look for faults. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Hi - enjoyed your home page! | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
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