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     Puppet Kite Kid Rating: N/A |
This is a non-commercial, "G-Rated" site! http://www.PuppetKites.net Coming next to the PK website... (I hope to get to this this week...) Field Sequential Anaglyph 3D for TV and Computer (plus Parallel MPEG 1 format) (Also called "interleaved anaglyph" or "interlaced anaglyph". The source is field-synced and shade-corrected for "nearly perfect" 3D viewing, even on a TV. The video segments on this site will be short duration, low bandwidth/bitrate (small file size), MPEG 2's, viewable with red-blue or red-cyan (or red-green) anaglyph glasses. Complete instructions on how to easily view them on a TV or computer will be included. I've got a ton of new information... You'll be able to burn these small 2 to 5 Meg files directly to an SVCD or a DVD and watch them on a TV. Use a rewritable disc! :-) (PAL TV's probably take a VirtualDubMPEG2 conversion.) This same version can be "bobbed" from a relatively fast computer's "TV out" to a TV. I think a dual head card is basically the same thing. This version can be adjusted in a bunch of different ways on the TV with the computer's overlay settings, and fine-tuned to perfection. I've tried it on three TV's through S-video and a cheap RF modulator box with 100% perfect, mind-blowing results. I'll also upload a version that's playable on a computer "as is", or can be played in perfect anaglyph 3D with StereoMovie Maker as page-flipped, interlaced (anaglyph) or progressive "Color Anaglyph". -- P. K. Kid 3D Adventures Of The Puppet Kite Kid: (All G-Rated) | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
PKK, let me understand. I've dl the movies in red/cyan anaglyph format. I've got a DVD player (that can play SVCD) and a PAL TV-set. I've got red/cyan glasses, a CD/RW and nero burning soft too. WHAT HAVE I TO DO RIGHT NOW???? How can I put your movies on the CD/RW? THX! | ||
| Puppet Kite Kid Rating: N/A |
I'm sorry. I was excited to announce my next project, but I don't have any field sequential anaglyph videos uploaded yet! That's what I meant by "Coming Next!" on my site... The ones that are available for download right now can't be viewed this way unless you do the conversion yourself of the parallel videos to "Red-Cyan, Shade-Corrected, Color Anaglyph - Interlaced". Instructions are on the http://www.puppetkites.net/virtualdub3d.htm page. The next videos I make will be downloadable and burnable directly to SVCD or DVD, just as they are, with no further 3D conversion needed. HTH PKK | ||
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Also... hang loose. I need to see what happens with a PAL TV, and really need some feedback from someone who tries this. I could even upload a temporary PAL video to test this. NTSC 60 Hz TV flicker is a bit annoying, but it can be reduced, either on the TV, or by "bobbing" it from a computer with the VLC Media Player... basically "page-flipping" without a stereo driver directly from the VLC player to the TV. You need a fairly fast computer with a TV out or probably a dual head card. (same thing?) You can use your computer's overlay settings to tune the flicker down. It might work at 100 Hz PAL (or 120 Hz NTSC), too, with a field doubler that doubles the scan rate. We don't have nearly as many limitations with this as trying to do this with shutterglasses. The stereo effect never _reverses_, the interlace line integrity isn't quite as crucial, and trying to troubleshoot a shutterglasses sync is not needed, of course :-) But... there's going to be a whole bunch of ways to look at these on a computer... even if your TV doesn't work very well. It's just really fun to see perfect anaglyph 3D on a TV... it's amazing :-) PKK | ||
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Here's my theory... based on frame rate testing today and in the past... and real testing on an NTSC TV. You should be able to connect any TV, PAL included, to the S-Video "out" of a computer video card, and view a field sequential anaglyph video of _any_ frame rate, "bobbed" from the (open source, freeware) VLC Media Player. Since field sequential anaglyph 3D can only be encoded to MPEG 2 at a maximum frame rate of 30fps, this is as fast as it will "bob" (basically page-flipping without a stereo driver), and that is *just* fast enough to do the job, especially when tweaked with your computer overlay settings. The player has to be in the overlay mode... that is the default setting. Your computer monitor refresh rate is irrelevant if your TV monitor is your "extended" desktop, and of course if the TV is your single monitor. The VLC player is simply playing the video one field at a time at the frame/field rate of the video... 30fps = 60 images per second, 25fps = 50 images per second. 25fps produces quite a bit more flicker than 30 on my TV monitor. Your TV monitor is irrelevant, too, in this case. Your TV only has to properly separate fields when it is "fed" an interlaced video, like a 25fps PAL video or a 30fps NTSC video. "Bobbing" from the computer with the VLC player has no affect on the scan rate or method on the TV. Remember, "force bob", as we are used to dealing with in Power DVD, does something _totally_ different. "Bob" in the VLC player is actually "page-flipping" the images (somehow :-). This has only been successfully tested with interlaced TV, so far. I'm really curious if it will also work with a digital TV (plasma, LCD) monitor. A DVD or SVCD won't, progressively scanned or otherwise. This might work. So... a computer with the VLC Media Player and a TV "out" might be a solution for "anaglyph PAL TV". All you have to do is use 30fps video :-) The VLC player, being open source freeware, has bugs... but "bob" is working... on my PC and my MAC. Playing videos on the computer monitor has a different outcome. The refresh rate, for some reason, seems to have to be 60 Hz for 30fps video. I don't have a "60 Hz" refresh rate on the Mac... so this might be why the "bob" setting flickers so much. The same thing happens on the PC at different refresh rates. So... who knows... until they try it? :-) You will need a fast computer, I think. I can't even hardly get the VLC player to work on my old 466 Celeron... don't know if it's the computer or the WinME OS... or what... but that's a really out of date comp :-) HTH, PKK | ||
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One more comment... before I get to work on some videos to upload... The VLC player can stream, too. I don't have a TV card on this comp, so I would have to stream _from_ an online server. It has a bunch of network server options ...that's over my head, but I assume you could stream from just about *anything*. This signal would simply feed directly to your TV monitor (or any monitor, depending on what works). A 30fps field sequential anaglyph isn't a complaint PAL signal, but that won't matter, as long as this idea works. I think most of us think that the first major, *official* 3D streams will probably come over cable internet, anyway... and you can make medium bandwidth MPEG 2's that would probably feed over DSL just fine... my videos are going to be around 30 seconds long at 3 to 5 MB's!...whatever I settle with. (I'm on dialup with limited server space and bandwidth... I've got to keep them small :-) After the success of a 3D internet server or two... or three, I'm sure eventually the "big boys" could come up with a field doubler that would double the scan rate of the existing compliant 3D signals. PKK | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I've got no video-out. Can you upload some videos that I can burn to a VCD or SVCD? If you tell me how to burn a VCD/SVCD I'll test it with a PAL-TV set-up. My stand alone DVD-player can even read .MPG files from an ISO formatted CD-ROM, if you can upload a .MPG file I can easly burn it to a CD-ROM and play it on my TV-set. THX | ||
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I just had this verified over in the Yahoo 3D Video group, which seems to fit my thory: My frame rate tests yesterday made me realize for sure that a 25fps video flicker would be terrible. I am able, though, to "bob" (page- flip) any frame rate of video from the VLC Media Player on my computer to my TV. A 30fps MPEG 2 yields the best result, simply because of the frame rate. This will produce identical results on a PAL TV... a 60 frame per second "flicker" totally unassociated with the TV Hz... only caused by the frame rate of the video on the computer. The VLC is probably the only way to do it at this time. I'm getting really good colors on my 32 inch JVC TV, and the colors on the high definition Sony was mind-blowing, so this must vary from monitor to monitor. Color adjustments can be made, and if you are going the VLC player route, your computer has a lot of color adjustment. A true PAL interlaced anaglyph *signal* straight to a TV would require a field doubler that doubles the scan rate. A 100 Hz "scan rate" would be flicker free. At least we the the VLC option. All your computer has to be able to do is play a 30fps video without dropping frames... that shouldn't take anything *too* terribly fast... 1 GHz or so???? Plus you can use lower bitrates to get one to work on a slower computer. Also, from the VLC Player, your TV just becomes "another monitor", so you don't have to use compliant NTSC or PAL resolutions. If your TV has a 4:3 aspect ratio, just use a 30fps 4:3 video at any resolution. WYSIWYG. If you have a widescreen, use a 16:9 or an ananmorphic interlaced anaglyph! Bingo! :-) | ||
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HHmmm. This is getting interesting... I just converted a field sequential anaglyph to DV and transferred it to my camcorder. Even though the LCD screen is small, I can see that the image is 100% perfectly perfect :-) No ghosting. The colors are awesome, too. There is a 60 Hz flicker, but it isn't bad on this small LCD screen, and my guess is you could turn the brightness down or tweak it somehow to get rid of almost, if not all, of the flicker. I'm going to S-video it from my cam to my interlaced TV, next, but I assume it will look identical to a DVD. The biggest question is if it looks perfect on this small LCD screen, will it look perfect on a big one... well, jeeze, I would think so. Here's the clincher... I can't get the DV to "bob" properly on my computer! The VLC Media player won't open it! It *almost* works in Windows Media Player and RealOne, but the "bob" is oddly "out of phase". The "bob" of an MPEG 2 in the VLC shows a perfect 60 Hz "bob". I think what this may mean is LCD viewing can be perfect... that should mean plasma, too! Remember my "HD testing" at Circuit City? It was played as an MPEG 2 from a DVD player... we've got "apples and "oranges" going, here! It's only working as an MPEG 2 on a DVD player to an interlaced TV, or "bobbed" in the VLC player on the computer to the CRT monitor or the interlaced TV _or_ to an LCD screen!!! Conclusion? It should "bob" perfectly from the VLC to _any_ monitor! Also, the cam's tape might play it correctly to any monitor type. Also, StereoMovie Maker plays the DV perfectly as "interlaced", "full "color anaglyph" (strangely not as "half color, probably because it already is encoded to "half color".) or page-flipped (perfectly with no flicker). Windows media player will also play it correctly as "weaved" with the "video acceleration" off, but I can't get RP to work that way... or Stereoscopic Player... you won't be able to "weave" it to an LCD or plasma nearly as well as you can "bob" it from the VCL player or from the camcorder... I'm thinking that at this point. I'm just glad to see "perfect" 3D on an LCD screen! Wow! It's awesome! If I have to drag around DV tapes to play it on progressive monitors, that's heck of a lot cheaper than buying a laptop ;-) Stay tuned... I'm progressing ;-) ;-) ;-) -- P. K. Kid 3D Adventures Of The Puppet Kite Kid: (All G-Rated) http://www.PuppetKites.net | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Hi, is there a software that converts 2d vobs to 3d anaglyph to be viewed with red/green/blue glasses? I thought of converting standard 2d dvds to 3d anaglyph and then project them with a projector via vga output.I found 3dproducer that does this only in realtime and does not support vob files.If i convert all the 2d vobs of a movie in 3d anaglyph and burn them to a dvd,am i going to be able to watch 3d with red/blue/green glasses when i will play this dvd with a standalone dvd player and my projector via svideo? I am a bit confused and need some help to this.If what i am trying to do can not be done please let me know. Thanx a lot. |
