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Darek

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Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Its specs say it is 3d stereo capable. If a pc displays pageflipped 3D will it work on the glasses?
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Gambit

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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 2:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ok, I did some quick research and the "I-Glasses LC" are basically a substitute for a television screen. It accepts s-video and RCA connectors which are the exact same thing any modern television would accept.

So there's good news and bad news. The bad news is that it sounds like buying a new television that you can loose or break easier but is more portable. And no, those glasses won't work with pageflipping... The good news is that the glasses that work with page flipping are way cheaper than that but must be used with an existing computer monitor (I own the "Wired E-D Glasses" $70 US bought 1 year ago).

Page flipping is more complicated to set up. First off, it is less the glasses than the video card that does the majority of the work (or lack thereof). All the so-called "LCD shutter glasses" do is make one eye able to see the monitor while the other is blocked by sending an electrical pulse to change the opacity of the liquid crystals in a display. You don't need to be an engineer to guess how quick someone could slap one of these LCD shutter puppies together, it would be like making a simple switch or something. This subsequently allows your left eye to see the left image and right eye the right image giving you a 3d experience that includes depth perception. I'm trying to get 3d movies to work but my monitor is living up to its "refurbished" name (it was cheap...) The key is the speed of the opening and closing of the "shutter" a.k.a. change of opacity and the refresh rate of the monitor. If your monitor can't do 120 or 140 hz without going into sleep mode (a safety feature apparantly, it seems more of a nuissance to me though) then I would caution buying the shutter glasses. You must divide the frequency of the monitor in half (half for each eye) and that gives your the "equivalent" refresh rate your eyes see. Ok, I'd go with 140 hz because 120 hz / 2 = 60 hz and that is equivalent to the lighting frequency in a north american home and when you have your monitor set to the same frequency as your lights it will trick your brain into thinking you are staring into one. Glasses or no glasses better get out the tylenol if your planning on sitting there for more than 15 minutes cause this causes headaches. Going less than 60 hz equivalent is better, but not desirable. So test to see if your monitor can do 140 hz (but don't leave it there cause it shorten's it's life).

The second step to the mess of new technology (yeah I hate new technology without standards but nothing you can do really) is to figure out if your video card can support the shutter glasses. I've programmed a few 3d games and right off the bat I can say it will or it won't. If you have a geforce card, good. If you have some other kind like radeon or voodoo better double check.

Now on to the content. If you play 3d computer games a lot, don't worry about surfing the net for 3d pictures cause by looking at the z-buffer in 3d games nvidia managed to slap together a driver package (drivers tell your video card what to do and somehow they tell it to send signals to your shutter glasses) and this package can use that information to make it "page-flipped" right as it is displayed and simply uses a few more mb of the excessive capacity of new video cards.

Other content abounds. I hope this answers your question. Now does anyone know how to play 3D movies at 85 monitor hz?
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Darek

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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 1:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

So, what stereo signal from a PC will these I-glasses LC accept? Old virtual IO glasses would work with pageflipping (just like many shutter glasses) see iglasses.weirdoz.org and go to Gaming FAQ if you need more info. I thought the i-glasses used same concept, but you're saying these won't work with pageflipping.
What is the hmd that will use nvidia's stereo drivers to project a direct3d and opengl application in full stereoscopic 3D?
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Darek

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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 7:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ok, I'm answering my own questions.. I-glasses LC are NOT 3D capable. I called up the manufacturer and found out.

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