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Schnupps

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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 10:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi,
I hope somone can help me with this.
We have to make a 3d Video for some company in stereo. The video is done in 60 frames per second, while first frame is left eye, second is right eye and so on. They show it on Dual LCD head mounted displays with 60hertz or 120.
For them, the test video we sent them worked, but we have to be able to check the stereo effect on our own. Since HMDs are to expensive, we bought a pair of revelators to be able to see the effect.
But I can´t get it to work while running the video. It just toggles itself on while being in direct3d.
So does anybody got an idea how to turn the glasses on while watching a video with the media player (ctrl+T doesn´t do it)? Monitor should run on 60 or 120 hertz then right?

Excuse my English,
Schnupps

http://www.rebusmedia.de
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Puppet Kite Kid

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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You've got a frame sequential video? How did you do that? ;-)
You can convert it to a paired format or to interlaced 3D (field sequential 3D) and use a number of PC shutterglasses viewing methods (including freeware options).
It's been a while since I've played around with this, but you should be able to convert your frame sequential video into another format with AviSynth/VirtualDub... or if you have something like Adobe After Effects, you could nudge the video one frame and render a 30fps left view, then do the same thing with the right view, then put them back together into a paired or field sequential format.
Let me know if you get stuck and need specific instructions. I'll have to go through a quick experiment and see if I can remember how to do this :-)

P. K. Kid
Non-commercial stereoscopic 3D video:
(All G-Rated) http://www.puppetkites.net
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 2:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Once you've converted your video to interlaced, side-by-side or over/under format, you can play it with Stereoscopic Player and watch it with many different stereoscopic viewing methods, including anaglyphs and shutter glasses (supported via NVIDIA stereodriver, quadbuffered OpenGL, syncdoubling or interlaced mode)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/stereo3d
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 8:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

trying to run the field sequential 3D’s with shutter glasses.....I found this on another board...

finally got the IMAX movies to play good stereoscopic, on my NVIDIA 5700 256 card. I’m using their nvdvd software, the most controllable I have ever seen. in properties,video.under de-interlace control I had to choose "video", under de-interlace mode I had to choose "display fields separetly".With the ed-activator or h3d activator and with the refresh rate at 60 Hz, they now play as perfectly as the games in stereoscopic 3d. I can now sell the ATI 9200 128
I've been a loyal ATI customer for several years until now. If you love stereoscopic 3d don't bother waiting for the updated drivers e-dimensional keep promising. At best you'll get a few working the NVIDIA 3d works on just about every game I have.

All the best

Unclebob
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brian

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

can anybody help me?
i am a macintosh user making field interlaced stereoscopic videos. i want to convert the material so it can be viewed on a mac via the dvd player with shutter glasses. can anyone suggest a mac compatible glasses system and a place i can get info for converting the video to suit the system (above/below or whatever).
many thanks.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

brian: The problem is not in shuter glases. The problem is there is no graphic card avialable for mac supporting stereoscopy, nor software.
Only one advice - forget mac platform in combination with stereoscopy.
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Muggler

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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Crystal Eyes makes a set of shutter glasses that are compatible on the Mac, and the system DOES support stereography. The Crystal Eyes system is expensive and there's not much support for games/entertainment on the platform because of the small user base.

Here is the URL to the Crystal Eyes for Mac workstation:

http://www.stereographics.com/products/crystaleyesworkstation/indexmac.html

And here is a link to a Mac game, Nanosaur 2, that supports both Crystal Eyes as well as anaglyph stereoscopy:

http://www.pangeasoft.net/nano2/3dglasses.html

They just upgraded another of their titles to support 3D stereo as well.

I have had success editing interlaced stereoscopic footage in Final Cut Pro by sending the signal out of the CPU into a miniDV camera, and then sending it from the camera to an i-glasses HMD. I am able to see everything in 3D, and the image stays in 3D even when I pause the timelines. I imagine you could also output the signal to an NTSC monitor and use the Razor 3D video glasses as well. Good luck -- I'd love to hear how you solve the problem.
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dmcomeau

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Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Brian-- the H3D Cruiser system has a hardware switch, enabling you to view 3D on a Mac. It's pretty hard to find-- in fact the system I'm using is borrowed (so since I clued y'all in, don't muscle me out of any future eBay auctions! I still need a set of H3D Cruisers of my very own, if anyone has some to spare).

So far, I've had success exporting from FCP to uncompressed AVI, and the resulting files are viewable in 3-D. Granted, I end up with a 14 gig file for 1:15 minutes of video. It is without flicker. Resolution goes up to 120 Hz at 800x600 with my monitor-- I suspect that the videocard is limiting the refresh from being higher, but am using the stock Nvidia card that came with my G4 1Mhz. I don't believe I've tried using an interlaced DVD playing on the Mac with the Cruisers hooked up.

I also use Muggler's technique to preview FCP footage, though more often than i-glasses I use shutterglasses/TV combo to preview.

Muggler and Brian, see my post on 3dtv yahoo group regarding the project to create a Mac 3-D FAQ!

Dave
dmcomeau@yahoo.com

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