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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Very nice people. Had a price quote the next day.
The displays are $638 each.
The price quote didn't have a separate price for the binocular or monocular PC interface. So the dispays are only $1276. I'll get back in touch with them about the interface price. I think I would rather have 2 monocular systems hooked into a dual head card over the stereoscopic setup because Nvidia has already handled all our stereoscopic needs with their drivers and dual output stereo cards.
Considering our requirements can anyone think why a TrackIR3 wouldn't be able to handle the tracking?
John
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

How about some input from the "optics guys". I've been doing some searches for near the eye optics and micro Fresnels. So far everything is under $100. What do we need specifically? Will those 4x magnification reading glasses do the trick? There's some visually handicapped retailers that have some serious (10x)optics for a good price. Let me know. I'm going to keep searching. BTW is there anyone else that thinks that $2000 is an acceptabe cost for a 800x600 HMD with headtacking?
John
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

are they full color OLED's? I just read something about the need of colorwheels.. ?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Color wheels are for DLP technology not OLED. OLEDs are similar to LCDs but do not need a backlight as they are luminecent. That of course is a VERY basic discription. There's alot of articles around the net that explain the technology in layman terms if your interested in better understanding the technology.
John
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I think $2000 is still too much. For me anyhow. Getting closer though. Any year now LOL. Hey - How the heck was that leadteck company going to sell HMDs for $500 bucks like they said last year if the displays they were supposed to be using alone cost more than twice that? More BS?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

..can't wait for 1080p oled's in a pricarange at 200$ ;) let's see what the future will give..
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

btw, x-eye with 800x600 was announced at approx. 450$
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hey John,

You have not talk about the optics yet, and 4x magnification is not good at all, try 20x. 800x600 at $2000 is way too much. I paid for my i-Glasses for less than $900, and that is the price two years ago. There is nothing new in OLED, except the over all implementation is much lighter.
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Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 12:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hey BOPrey,
Do you have the stereoscopic i-Glasses? Are they 800x600? If so how are they for stereo gaming?
As far as the cost of the displays, that's the cost for just 2. I'm sure the cost in quantity is considerably less. If nothing else it'll be an interesting project.
John
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Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 4:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

hey, what do you guys think what kind of optics are needed to stretch such a rectangular OLED to full 170-180° FOV for 1 eye? I was thinking that it must be some really heavy glass optics to handle this 'next step' of stereo 3d.. ?
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BOPrey

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Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 12:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Yes. I have a i-Glasses HMD. I sometimes use it to watch movie on the laptop when laying down on bed, and not using it for gaming (any more at least). First of all, it is only 800x600 (think OLED is the same deal), and that resolution is way too low for me. Secondly, the FOV is only about 29 degrees; again, this is like looking at a 15 inch screen at 3 feet. You need at least 90 degree FOV to have a decent feel for gaming.

Now, for the kind of optics required to stretch a single LCD or OLED to a full 170 - 180 FOV HMD, no, it does not exist for the type of final product we are looking for. A optics system that can do that is at less 10 times more expensive than the display itself.
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Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The OLED SVGA displays are much cheaper in bulk. I believe I've heard more like $70 a piece for a large order like Daeyang or Leadtek would buy so their end product would be less expensive to build than on your own. I'm not up on the optics bit but do know that the OLED needs optics that can make special use of the lambertian emission in order to enlarge the field of view up to 40 degrees. OPDEV has optics available for this but not sure of pricing. Click the down arrow on resolution for the OLED microdisplay optic choice.
http://www.opdev.com/aboutopd_quote_micro_mag.html

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