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Clyde

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

... Ok after getting over my laziness, all i did was cut two 1 inch squares of transparent cigarette packet wrapper and stick them onto the Lcd glasses. (this is the same Cellophane half-wave retarder hack done by that scientist guy and you can try it with most plastic shrink wrap, quality of shrink wrap is important though) for rotating the polarization of an LCD.

.. Well now it works on an external monitor, i.e, i can see the test pattern in 3d with X3d glasses.
I can also see interlaced dvd movies, but resolution isnt the best and of course in interlace mode the whole movie plays "dimmed".

Any of the experts know of:
1) how will pageflipped movies work on an lcd monitor , if its possible that is

2) Why is it that Shutters will work with a DLP projector and not an lcd projector

3) Whats a good lowcost setup for dlp projection stereo (for movies)

Regards All,
Clyde
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clyde

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

P.S It dont work with a laptop monitor, only and external LCd monitor.
I can still see the laptop screen clearly, but Interlaced, or pageflip mode dosnt put the laptop screen into "3d" mode.
--Clyde
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

wait.. what have you done? You put some cellophane
onto oyur lcd-screen to watch it with your x3d-glasses? what you expect from that?
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clyde

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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 5:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

errrm... no, I put some Cellophane in front of each of the lcd glasses, this rotates the polarization of the LCd monitor when viewed thru the lcd glasses.
Normally when you switch on your shutter glasses and watch an lcd monitor, you will just see Black.
(some lcd monitors will of-course if your lucky, have their polarization orientation in the same plane as yr shutter glasses, in which case you dont need the cellophane)

What do I expect from that? --- Well for startes Using Vrml clients like cortona and Blaxxun u can see vrml in stereo.
Even 3D dvds like haunted castle are working but the output is very "dimmed" as i said above.

So looking for others to come up with some solutions or hacks.
Cheers
Clyde
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I found that ED website syas that their 3D game glasses supports both CRT and LCD monitors.
They have their own way? Or maybe just taking your idea?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 5:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have the dell 2405fp monitor. The Monitor is still not fast enough. I can see 3-D but only portions that have small separation. It get better when I turn my brightness and contrast down but it is to dark to be acceptable. I bought this LCD in hopes that it will work with my glasses. Oh well, btw, the monitor uses a samsung panel which is rated at 12ms, dell says 16ms though. I also own the 2001fps. These are rated at 16ms. I didnt try them out on them but since they use a slower LG-Phillips panel, I didnt bother trying. Also, the sony 23inch panel is rated at 40ms not 4ms as someone said.

I am using an old pair of I-Art glasses. I can still see the image on my monitor even though its a little dark.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 6:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

what millisecond rating would be needed for stereo on an lcd?
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The reaction time is just one of at least 4 major problems concerning the use of shutterglasses with LCD-displays. Even if you had virtually zero milliseconds reaction it still wouldn't work well.

Please check
http://www.stereo3d.com/faq.htm

Christoph
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

###I found that ED website syas that their 3D game glasses supports both CRT and LCD monitors.
They have their own way? Or maybe just taking your idea? ###

They changed the polarization properties of the LC-shutters (in status 'open') to not interfere too much with the polarized light coming from the LCD-display.

I'm not shure yet if they also modified the controller to compensate the buffer time-gap produced by the LDC-display which usually leads to sync-problems.

Christoph
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M.H.

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have just got from E-dimansional samples of the LCD monitor compatible glasses for testing. I will let you know my impression during one week or so, after careful testing with all LCD monitors we have available ....
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Puppet Kite Kid

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Finally. Thanks, M.H. I have been waiting for someone to do an extensive test.
I can't get them to work with my LCD screen, and contrary to what some people have guessed, I'm not doing anything *wrong*, and I am quite sure there is nothing wrong with the dongle or glasses or driver, etc... they just simply do not work with my monitor.
Again, they are going in and out of sync in a gradual and repetitive manner (every few seconds), from normal stereo 3D to reverse stereo 3D.

PKK
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M.H.

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I had made some preliminary comparion of the LCD and CRT glasses ...
- The LCD use different control unit ...
- The LCD use the panel polarization rotated 90 deg in comparison to the normal one (probably not to interfer with LCD monitors ?)
With CRT both versions looks to work identicaly ...

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