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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I will.

If we get enough people perhaps we could approach and get a group/bulk discount?

We'd have to arrange it for all payment direct to them of course. Or perhaps Christoph could speak to them?

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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I will too!
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GianCarlo

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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 6:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Don't bet on a group discount! It sounds like you're cooking up a logistical shipping nightmare! Your best bet would be to get people together a short driving distance from yourself, that way, emagin can ship it all to one address and people can pick up their stuff directly. Maybe then eMagin might consider a bulk discount. Try approaching eMagin with the idea yourself and see what they say. They do have a sales representative, try that email address on their website.
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stereoviewer

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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ill buy it, even if I don´t have an income at all since Im studying for the moment. ;)
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blues

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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

i'll buy the Z800:

For games(even if you say it's not immersive)
For private viewing .
and so far this is the only one so good technically
at this price

blues
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Devil Master

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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I'll buy the Z800 if:
1) it does not have the heat/color/contrast problems of the i-glasses
2) it can be hacked to double its FOV
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 11:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I e-mailed exec VP Susan Jones of Emagin about the FOV concerns. She stated that 40 degree usable FOV is about as big as anyone would want to bear the weight (using optical techniques currently available0. As the FOB gets bigger, weight typically gets larger if the range of "eyebox" also remains usable. Eyebox (range of useable eye positions) is as imp't as FOV in being able to look at an image and feel comfortable. Eyebox keeps you from having to continually readjust and squint to see the image, which can cause eye fatigue. Cheap microscopes and expensive microscopes and telescopes both list certain magnifications such as 200x, but it is eyebox that makes the difference between a $10,000 microscope and a $50 toy microscope. Here we needed to create a large magnification for FOV and a large eyebox.
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BOPrey

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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I'll buy it just for the heck of it.
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cbrack

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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 5:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

why not 'hack' the z800 with a high quality fresnel?
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Jesper

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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Wouldn't that kind of HQ fresnel cost a lot of money. I mean the GPI must be very hight since the fresnel is so close to your eyes, right?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Am already sent a e-mail to sales dept at Emagin to put on pre-order if can do that. We have waiting long enough and but this isnot perfect in all ways it looks the best option we have seen in long time. Ever for price of it. Just to hope it not another never coming out prootype like there are as many others. How will the z800 sell them- on website or in stores fast after?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Will be getting these. No Ghosting and Motion tracking. Sounds perfect.

Just working out what things I can sell on ebay to raise the Cash.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 2:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

To previous anonymous, turns out pretty much anything, if you put a decent spin on it. Like a lucky toenail that got stepped on after which the 'previous owner' of the nail because unstoppably lucky at poker. $1,250. 9 bids.

Regarding the z800s, I hope they come out soon. The sales rep keeps saying 'call next month'. I am starting to have my doubts and deja vus.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 2:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

"I am starting to have my doubts and deja vus"

yeah i wonder what causes these companies to wait so long after anouncing them....

I just wish someone would do a deal with nvidia,sony or ms and release a "proper" consumer hmd.

The next playstation will have a nvidia gpu so that seems like the perfect platform.
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anonyGus

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Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 5:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I think they have always stated end of 2nd quarter(June) availability and credit card odering 30 days prior so we should know more in 1-2 months. They will probably officially launch for order taking at E3 in May.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Sony already sold a proper stereo-HMD, but they stopped it years ago.

Stereo on a game-console should be native, so the nVidia wrapper technology isn't required and the gpu doesn't matter. However nVidia's experience with stereo is an advantage.

Christoph
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 6:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

doesn't the z800 deal with stereo on-chip? so it wouldn't matter what the hardware is.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

No display device can produce stereo on it's own. The soft- and hardware has to deliver two channels.

Christoph
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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 4:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

so a dual core gpu would be favorable for stereo?


Regarding SLI, Nvidia had the opportunity the divide the frame into grids like ati's method but stuck with half the frame... i wonder if they did that to make stereo easier to implement in SLI/multi-core gpu's.
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ihate56k

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Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I will, but I'm waiting for an independant review first.

I had been planning on getting that iodisplay one, but every review I saw said they weren't worth it.

I've got my fingers crossed that this one will be better, but I need a little re-assurance before I hand over my £££

"doesn't the z800 deal with stereo on-chip? so it wouldn't matter what the hardware is."
It just emulates a set of shutterglasses, taking alternate images from the video, you won't need dual head or anyting, but you will need a Nvidia!
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I'm emailed emagin several times and never get a reply on a release date. Anyone else know when it's supposed to be released?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Probably at E3
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Devil Master

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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Christoph:
"Sony already sold a proper stereo-HMD"

Hm, AFAIK, Eye Trek weren't stereo...
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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Emagin will take orders one month before they can shipwhich they said will happen in june. Look for a great showing at E3 with all the bells and whistles. They plan to have a station with Half-Life, Flight Simulator and a military game that slips my mind.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 4:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

awesome... i hope to see it all over the gaming sites.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 4:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

They are going to be in "Americas Army" booth at E3 as well as their own.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 3:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

If the Z800 is good enough for military VR training than I would think that it would be perfect for gamers.

Quantum3D showed off the Z800 at their booth at Itec.

With Quantum3D Thermite, Z800 Enables Embedded Simulation And Training

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050425/255399.html?.v=1

Emagin also was at SPIE Defense Security Conference

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050329/295364.html?.v=1

http://www.quantum3d.com/press/PDF/2005/04-26-05_CG2_ECATT-MR.pdf
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Just because something is used in training and simulation applications doesn't make it good. I-glasses and i/cy-visors are commonly used in military vr training as well. That being said, I have seen the emagin hmd at several conferences and I am very excited.

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