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Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 11:00 pm: | |
The news page say something about new 3D DVDs but they won't work on a PC? If it's playable on a home DVD, it must be playable on a PC. right? |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 11:04 pm: | |
Any fresher info than Q4 2001? Available everywhere you can find IMAX DVDs? |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 8:10 am: | |
It is posible to remove the CSS protection from DVD, demultiplex the streem, convert to above/below format, recompres and play from HD ... This procedure needs some experiences + XX Gb free space on HD ... The result shifted above/below fomat is than playable on PC throw sinc. doubling ... Direct playback of the TV targeted stereoscopic DVD on PC will be posiblw when some company writing PC DVD player will make a small modification in the code, making the nessesery conversion on the fly. I have code witch can do that (palback of TV tageted mpeg2 movie throw HW page flipping on PC). Unfortunately the code is to slow becouse I have no acces to optimized mpeg2 decompresion routines ... |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 7:06 pm: | |
PowerDVD shipping with Eye3D support stereoscopic mpeg2 in above/below in realtime on fast PII/PIII. |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 8:31 pm: | |
Where do we find this PowerDVD?????? |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 8:52 pm: | |
I believe it is called PowerDVD VR-X and only sold in Japan????? |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 9:00 am: | |
PowerDVD (Eye3D version) is totally useless. It can not transfer interlaced mpeg2 to above/below format. It can only play above/below as 2D and and to the above/below format the proper glasses color activation codes ... |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 9:35 pm: | |
PowerDVD with 3D support ships ONLY with eye3D glasses. Can only play above below format. www.iart3d.com I got all that's needed for conversion, just missing the actual DVDs and the legal rights to do it... |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 5:27 pm: | |
Why wouldn't the 3D Control Panel with the VR Surfer work with an interlaced DVD like it does with an interlaced picture from the internet? |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 8:31 pm: | |
Anonymous: It is easy, no DVD player shows interlaced source movie on the screen as interlaced one. They do the output on computer screen after deinterlacing and smoothing. No one DVD player have the option to disable this mode. It is a pity, because the modification of the code is trivial. Even transfer of the interlaced frames to DD surfaces or OpenGL buffers + full screen HW page flipped output is easy ... The DVD-player coding companies are just to lazy or unexperienced to give us good solution ... |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, July 09, 2001 - 3:32 pm: | |
No the real reason is that there on not enough people who want it to supply a feature that would only benefit a small fraction and probably greatly increase the number of support calls in reference to it. It is not a "GOOD" trade off for them. Regards, Smokey |
Greg Kintz
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, July 09, 2001 - 10:23 pm: | |
Note that a PC being progressive is not the core problem with compatibility, it's *how* your given DVD player converts interlace to progressive scan, and what options you have to control that process. If you can get a DVD software player to interpolate the video (create an extra line from the field being displayed) then you're set. This also applies to HDTV sets with progressive conversion built in for the 480i NTSC format. Interpolation would keep the left right images intact and display them correctly, but of course you still need to activate your LCS glasses as well. |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2001 - 6:38 am: | |
GregKynz: The problem is, that the DVD players for PC do not do only interpolation. They show evryting as progresive images doing deinterlacin by BOB or VOW algoritms ... It is nesesery just to stop any manipulation with the source mpeg2 after the odd/even line fields extraction from the non-progresive mpeg2 streem and use some stereoscopic method to visualise them. Anybody interested in sample source doing just that could have a look on my www .... |
Kenny
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 7:59 am: | |
Hi There, Please refer our software "3D Maker Plus" at http://www.iart3d.com "New website ". which software can convert the interlacing to A/B format. |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 9:49 am: | |
Kenny: It is nessesry to convert the interlaced mpeg2 from DVD on the fly during playback ... Evrything else is already solved problem. Off line conversion could be doens by several tools like Adobe Premiere , Ulead Media Studio or Virtual DUB. |
Christoph Bungert (Admin)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 12:30 pm: | |
What I want to see is a DVD (or a 2-DVD set for that matter) with 4 formats: - flat - interlace - over-under - anaglyph So everybody would be happy. Christoph |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 6:55 pm: | |
Christoph: I would like to add folowing future to your list - producing interlaced signal playable on Standalone DVD compatible with TV shuterglasses (it does not corespond to your interlaced option becouse it have diferent meaning for PC than for TV and require diferent data procesing). The anaglyph output on standalone TV player will require anaglyph version of the movie directly encoded on the DVD ... Remining futures could be solved by following way: 1) Using interlaced non progresive mpeg2 for storage (it realy does not mix left and right images, I have tested it extensively + it is an standard compresion DVD compatible format) 2) PC DVD playback software witch can do on the fly conversion to all format you mention (it shuld be no problem, all nessesery operations could be HW accelerated by graphic cards DirectDraw functions). It will be even posible to add HW page flipped output throw Winx3D, OpenGl or the new nVida method ... I know exactly how to do that, unfortunately I do not have acces to 2 things: - exact DVD format specification witch is proprietary - fast enought mpeg2 decoding open source code If I only find some enought futuristic company witch already have some software DVD player available for cooperation . |
ToxicX
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 10:00 pm: | |
Try Intervideo that has WinDVD, they are looking for people in all departments: http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Company.jsp?mode=Jobs "For consideration, please send resume to email: ivihr@intervideo, fax (510) 651-8808, Attn: Human Resources Department. InterVideo Inc., is an Equal Opportunity Employer." If you mention that their main competitor, PowerDVD, already has an (inferior) stereo implementation, and that you can help them to make a better solution, maybe they'll be more interested... |
ToxicX
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 10:42 pm: | |
While you're at it, ask them all for bigger chances of actually landing a job... CyberLink PowerDVD (already is stereo enabled, above/below MPEG2, for Eye3D customers): http://www.gocyberlink.com/english/contacts/cl_offices.asp Ravisent - CinePlayer http://www.qi.com/careers/index.html Former MediaMatics, now DVDExpress http://www.national.com/appinfo/dvd/contact.html RealNetworks that bought XingDVD: http://proforma.real.com/rn/misc/jobs/index.html MGISoft DVDMAX: http://www.mgisoft.com/about/careers/index.asp Varo Vision VaroDVD http://www.varovision.com/sub7/index.html C-Cube, hardware based MPEG players: http://www.c-cube.com/employment.cfm ---------------------------------------------- OpenSource DVD player with HW Acc on some hardware: http://www.linuxvideo.org/ |
M.H.
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 7:34 am: | |
Toxic: I was sending E-mails on all mentioned links a year or so agou with sugestion for cooperation. They did not even respond. Maybe time to try it again ... I have studied the Linux open source project as well ... Unfortunately it was to dificul to port it to Windows platform on withc i am more focused ... |
ToxicX
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 7:20 pm: | |
Here is another Linux/Solaris DVD player: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/index.html seems to be supporting most basic features but lacks some stuff. Mention to the software companies that one of their rivals already has a 3D solution, do they really want to be #2? |
Anonymous
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 1:25 pm: | |
Hi, If you want to play a 3D DVD you need to rip it (without de-interlacing) and convert it to DivX format. Once it is in that format, 3DCombine can convert it to above/below or anaglyph or JPS etc. (www.3dcombine.com) |