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     quick4 Rating: N/A |
Has ANYONE succeeded at getting the elsa revelator glasses to work under Win2K, the Nvidia detonator 23.11 drivers, and a Geforce 2 based graphics card? If so, what did you do? Did everything work smoothly from beginning to end? Did you need to tweek your system? Does stereo only work on some games but not others? Everything seems to be fine with my system - the stereo properties tab works fine, when I enable stereo in games, the games appear to be in a stereo mode - but my infrared glasses do absolutely nothing. No random flickering, nothing. I've checked the batteries, corrected for DDC functions interferring but all to no avail. The only other possibility seems to be that the software is ineffective. | ||
| Pie Rating: N/A |
I have just the same problems, but with XP. Got so far as everything appears in stereo (2 images appear in most d3d things) but the glasses dont seem to "activate". Im using the wired version, so it can't be due to a lack of batteries etc. The only thing that does work is the test application, but even that has lots of white flashes, and doesnt activate the glasses at all with some settings. Is Nvidia aware of the problems with their stereo dirvers and XP/2k? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I'm running xp, and had exactly the same problem both of you guys describe. After trying endlessly to resolve the issue by changing and tweaking all sorts of settings, I decided to reinstall the OS. And it worked! I know this is not an elegant solution, but I suspect it will work. | ||
| quick4 Rating: N/A |
Hello, Pie. What settings do the glasses NOT trigger from? If I could avoid those settings, I might be able to get SOME response. So far, I haven't seen the lcd shutters close under any circumstances. | ||
| quick4 Rating: N/A |
Just two questions, Anonymous. The manufacturer of your video card probably provided some of their own video drivers. Did you use their drivers or did you only install the Nvidia detonator drivers? Or did you install both? Also, did you do a clean reinstall (reformat hard drive), or did you just reinstall over your previous installation? | ||
| Pie Rating: N/A |
quick4, It seems that the glasseswork with all settings on the test screen, but they didn't when I first started fiddling around. I have tried 3D mark and they occasionally flicker, but only once every 10seconds or so. Have you tried lots of different combinations on the test screen? So far I havent tried any tweak utilities etc, I have just deleted the dlls. It seems that when the dlls are deleted I can access the advanced settings, but changing the reselution in the standered menue (or doing anything it doesnt seem to like) causes it to crash requrireing a restart. When I put the dlls back I can then change things without it crashing, but can't access the advanced menue. I have tried the nvidia stereo drivers with other graphics card drivers (including the ones that came with the card, the windows defult ones, and an earlier version of the xp drivers). These work, and I can access the advanced menue but the stereo tab doesnt show up. I have tried reinstalling XP (the 'upgrade' install rather than the full install) and this hasen't helped. I have tried with a different moniter and I just got random flickering (I assume this is due to those pins that need breaking off to get it working?). Also...The older version on the 2k/XP detenator drivers had no problems during installation, but these latest ones said that they wern't suitable for XP (or words to that effect) and suggested that I shouldent continue with the installation. Anyhow...nothing like a challange eh? | ||
| quick4 Rating: N/A |
I also tried the upgrade reinstall of Win2K, instead of the full reinstall, but no effect. I, too tried different combinations of the drivers that came with the video board (Creative 3d Blaster Annihilator 2 MX) and the official 23.11 detonator drivers from Nvidia. No good. Now, I wanted to check to see if I could get stereo to work under a slightly older XP/2K detonator driver. Some people claimed greater success with the 22.90 detonator driver then 23.11, but I can't find this driver version. Any drivers earlier than 22.90 will not work; I tried version 21.83 which didn't even produce the appearance of a page flipping stereo effect. The only drivers that work basically flawlessly is the 23.11 drivers, except they don't trigger my glasses. No matter what I do, I can't even get the medical test to work; I tried different refresh rates (60hz, 100hz, 120hz), and stereo separation (0%, 5%, ~15%, 34%). I have invalidated my warranty by opening the plastic housing of the infrared transmitter. I checked with a voltmeter whether the infrared transmitter was receiving power and, indeed, it was. I also checked the voltage of the batteries in the glasses themselves and they were also good. There are 3 wires that connect from the mini DIN connector to the infrared transmitter. One black which is ground, one red +5 volts, and one white which is the control wire. I connected my voltmeter between the white wire and the black wire. Interestingly enough, the voltage I measured CHANGED according to whether I was viewing the medical test image or not. Somehow, the hardware sort of knows when it should be triggering, but is somehow not getting the correct signal. I hope to do a more detailed test with an oscilloscope, later. I suspect that the problem lies in the software, rather than the hardware. | ||
| Pie Rating: N/A |
I don't suppose you have (or have access to) another computer with a different os and a suitable 3d card you could try them on? You could then confirm that its not the glasses at fault. Also, have you tried a different moniter? | ||
| quick4 Rating: N/A |
Unfortunately, I do not have another suitable computer to perform comparative tests. I have a laptop, but the nvidia drivers wouldn't work with its video card. The only other monitor I have is a 15' lcd, which obviously wouldn't work. I also don't even have the installation disks for any other OSs, other than linux and Win Me that came with my laptop. The Win Me was only designed to install only on my laptop, so I can't use it. I do wonder if I can find a hack somewhere that will allow me to install it on my desktop, though. I'm considering five options, right now: wait for new Nvidia detonator drivers, buy a cheap as dirt 15' crt for testing purposes, buy a new video card from a different manufacturer, try to find a used copy of Windows Me somewhere (the price of Win Me and 98 is as high as ever, despite that XP is out)or just give up and check out the VRJoy2000 shutter glasses. The cheapest option would probably be to buy the VRJoy2000 glasses. | ||
| Pie Rating: N/A |
Given that there seem to be quite a few people with the same (or similar) problems, it could be worth waiting a little longer and see if Nvidia release new drivers? Also...do you know if its possible to dule boot between XP/2k and 98/Me? I might try installing 98 and trying them on that...even if they never work on XP it would be possible to use 98 for 3d stuff. | ||
| quick4 Rating: N/A |
I'd say that it is certainly possible to dual boot XP/2K. You can dual boot 2K with just about any other Microsoft OS out there. But why would you want to dual boot 98 and Me? So far as I know, the drivers work fine with those OSs. For troubleshooting purposes, it seems like you should dual boot 98/XP or Me/2K, but not Me/98 since they both work anyway. In either case, you'll need to repartition and reformat your hard drive, since different Microsoft OSs must reside under different partitions. | ||
| Pie Rating: N/A |
ahh...oops. I ment dual boot between Me or 98 and XP or 2k. But in general it might be best to do it this way, if its impossible to get the glasses working under XP. Its not worth going back to Me or 98 in general, but it might be worth just using 98 for games etc that need 3d (It should be simpler to install 98 as an 'extra' than do a full reinstall of XP and hope for the best). | ||
| quick4 Rating: N/A |
Well, I just did a clean, and very careful full reinstallation of Win 2K. And the results are. . .? ??? nothing. The glasses simply do not respond to anything. I don't know what's wrong with my setup. Somewhere between my 19' monitor and the lcd shutters of the glasses, something has gone terribly awry. With software and hardware as complicated as it is nowadays, it's a wonder that ANYTHING works at all. :-( | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
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