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Ray Price

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Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The Cy-Visor folks have signed a deal with EMagin to use their OLED microdisplay technology. I quizzed them on specs and availability and got the following two replys...

> We are ready for designing new units based on OLED technology and expect
> that we could release new model in the marekt within May, 2003.
> The field of view will be 42 degree diognal and the screen size will be 60
> inch at 2 meters. The resolution of the unit will be SVGA and the stability
> of unit will go up.
>
> Thank you,
> S. J. Choi

and also...

> Yes it will include a stereoscopic version. The field of view is 42 degree.

Sounds promising and I hear the display quality with the new OLED displays is excellent. Shame the FOV could not be higher, but it is a good start.

Ray
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Ray Price

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Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

No feedback? Mmmmm. I thought this was the most promising news on a stereoscopic HMD solution I have heard in a long time. These guys have delivered the goods in the past, and sounds like they are making some good strides forward.

How much would you guys pay for a solution like this? What would you use it for?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 8:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

It sounds interesting indeed but I guess that these glasses will be too expensive for me.
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fd

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Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

This is indeed very promising. I hope that the price of the stereoscopic version will not be too high for me.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 7:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

What is the suggested price of the stereoscopic version?
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ind_servant

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Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 8:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ray,
Im not a 3-d'er. I am visiting this board to see what people are saying about OLEDs from an investor's perspective.

I am not sure how confident I would be of emagin. They are not very well poised financially, and unless they can pull things together rather quickly, I dont see how emagin will remain viable in the OLED market.

I dont know how this would affect any buying decision you might have.

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I_S
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Ray Price

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Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I wouldn't be buying from EMagin, but from Daeyang who actually make the headsets. The deal has been signed so I understand, I guess if there is a problem with EMagin then Daeyang will have to look elsewhere... who else other than EMagin are producing OLED microdisplays?
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Steve@IIS

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Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

No one.

Steve
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Ray Price

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Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Lol, that's what I figured :P. I assume Daeyang are paying EMagin money for these things, so let's hope they get that money soon enough to keep them going :)
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Yeah right, I say we stick to what is out already and quit dreaming on a star :)
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Ray Price

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Posted on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 2:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

And if we all did that, we wouldn't be where we are today!... whereever that is!? :P
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ind_servant

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Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 2:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I believe OLEDs are going to be a big part of the display market in coming years. I believe Stanford Resources forecasts a $1.5 billion market by 2006.

There are several different types of OLED displays. small molecule active matrix, polymer-oleds, passive matrix, hybrid metal-oleds, etc. Various companies have their own patents, which they notoriously promote. Some of the major players include Universal Display Corp (small molecule phosphorescent), Eastman Kodak (Small molecule fluorescent), Cambridge Display (polymer oleds), Emagin (passive matrix?), DuPont, Seiko Epson, Ritek, etc... the list goes on and on. Most of the initial deployment of OLEDs are going into cell phone and PDA applications (small displays) that can take advantage of the low power and high efficiency of OLEDs. Major display manufacturers already have pilot scale facilities (hush hush) and will be deploying the first OLED displays next year for applications as large as laptop monitors (Sony Viao 13"). The anonymous poster who states OLEDs are a "dream" needs to seriously conduct due diligence before making such statements. The question really is whether OLEDs can take market share from LCDs, or whether they are already too far behind in mass-scale manufacturing/technological deployment

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I_S
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Ray Price

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Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I think part of the 'dream' comment is probably frustration on behalf of a lot of people who have been waiting for quality HMD's for the mass market. Many thanks for your informative post I_S, I certainly put a lot more hope in Daeyang, since they are one of the few players who have actually released real productsin the past. In this harsh economic climate though, it is hard to tell what will be released before companys fold.
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ind_servant

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Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Yes, Ray, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I have been trying to educate myself with what is going on in the research arena, and I never cease to be amazed with how one technical advance can be quickly trumped by another research group somewhere else. It is a rapidly evolving market, and very difficult to predict which technologies will entrench themselves and which will fall by the wayside. I think whatever the future holds, we the consumers will win in the end. As an investor, I would certainly like to make some money off these new display technologies.

By the way, I dont know much about HMD's, and you seem to have your finger on the pulse of the HMD market. Are you aware of a company called Microvision and their NOMAD headset?
http://www.microvision.com/prod_nomad.htm
Their displays are projected upon a clear see-through display that does not impede one's vision of their surroundings.
Very Kind Regards,
I_S
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Ray Price

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Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Yes I have read about these headsets, but their usage is really for so-called Augmented virtual reality (ie for head-up displays). My interest is really in the immersive side of virtual reality for entertainment, training and visualization purposes.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ray, any other 3d headsets on the horizon?
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ind_servant

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Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thanks, Ray.
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Ray Price

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Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The only other release I have seen announced is from IIS.

http://www.iisvr.com/products_VR_main.html

However there are a lot of sceptical people on these board that think the product will not come to full production. Since I have seen no updated information of the website for some months, I am inclined to agree.

There has also been some talk of a headset for the playstation 2.

http://www.gamers.com/news/1235150

The fact though that this will be driven by s-video makes me think that a) it will not be stereoscopic and b) the resolution will be very low. It wouldn't surprise me if it was just a re-packaging of Sonys lower end Glasstrons.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 7:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

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