| Author | Message | ||
     Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
Hello all, We have a special at this time on the i-glasses SVGA 3D at $950.00: http://www.vrealities.com/igsvga.html Regards, Virtual Realities | ||
| Steven Rating: N/A |
My goal is to demonstrate 3d video with full resolution video for each eye by use of two synced video cameras. I would buy the i-glasess if you could lead me to understand that this is possible with the i-glasses. Could you, or anyone else, describe the methods of accomplishing this goal? 1. Can the i-glasses SVGA display above/below, full resolution 3d Video (i.e. above/below from two synced cameras) played by PowerDVD or some other method; or side by side full resolution video (again from two synced cameras)? 2. If so, how is each method accomplished (is there a special way of sending it to the glasses - i.e., how would the above reach one eye and the below another; would the side by side be accomplised with dual output stretching the desktop over two monitors with the Nvidia graphics card - I do not know how to do this but have read that it is possible? 3. Is there some other method of sending two full resolution pictures from two cameras to the glasses? 4. Is there a certain power of processor necessary for smooth playback? 5. Would the Cy-visor be more amenable to my goal since I believe it allows dual input. 6. Is it possible to sync two Hi8 digital cameras? 7. Finally, what is the size of the virtual screen of the i-glasses vs. the i-visor? I would appreciate any help in understanding the process that you could give. Thanks, Steven | ||
| Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
Steven, I would recommend the Cy-Visor/I-Visor 3D for your application. You will be able to send two separate VGA or Composite feeds to this unit without a problem. Will send you an e-mail directly. Virtual Realities | ||
| i-O System Rating: N/A |
Please be careful when buying these units. What he has failed to mention is that they are USED REFURBISHED units. Please contact the manufacturer directly at www.i-glasses.com to verify. They sell a lot of products that are used but fail to mention that. Including SVGA 2D, SVGA 3D and Cy-Visors/i-visor amongst a lot of other products! Beware! Thanks! | ||
| Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
That is not true for all of our products are NEW and the post above is NOT by I-O Display Systems! A disgruntled competitor I see. Virtual Realities | ||
| Ross Rainville Rating: N/A |
Please note the post here credited to i-O Systems, was not posted by i-O Display Systems, LLC. Virtual Realities is able to offer the prices they do as a result of volume purchases. | ||
| Neil Axe Rating: N/A |
This always cracks me up. For such a small market, the sales tactics used are lower than the guys that run those used car corner lots. Anyhoo, I bought my pair of i-glasses svga 3d from Virtual Realities, and after over six months of ownership, they still are working great, and I'm using them every day. In the past I have refused to recommend the i-glasses svga 3d to anyone, because at $1500, the price is pretty steep, and I since I don't know the financial standing of people asking me, I didn't want to be the reason that some poor kid spent his college fund on an HMD. But now that the price has broken the $1000 barrier, I must say that it's starting to look more attractive. Man I wish the price barrier could be brought down to general consumer level ranges, because the i-glasses svga 3D is an awesome piece of equipment! However, I am glad to see attempts like this to lower the cost. Relativly speaking, $950 is pretty darn good deal. | ||
| craig Rating: N/A |
Hi neil, I think your right about the price... When they hit the sweet spot sales are gona take off. I haven't got a pair yet. A couple of months ago I going to get the 2-D model but at 950.00 when I'm ready it will be the 3-D model for sure.. Also neil, how is the tracker working ? Did you buy a new model? What tracker are you useing? | ||
| Ralf Klein Rating: N/A |
So to reconfirm. The svga 3D units at $950 are brand new not refurbs or used???? | ||
| Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
YES all of our products are NEW and not used. Virtual Realities | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
It is illegal to sell a used or refurb product as brand new. Beware the svga 3D units they are selling at $950 are not brand new! | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
How are these products on your site brand new? i-glasses (discontinued a long time ago) http://www.vrealities.com/vig.html (check ebay) Dynovisor?? Hehehe discontined 2-3 years ago. This is actually a Phillips Scuba they dumped for $50/ea http://www.vrealities.com/dyno.html ebay special Sony Glasstrons (again discontinued) ebay specials http://www.vrealities.com/sony.html Virtual Visor? hahaha pure crap http://www.vrealities.com/virtualvisor.html VIR1 ancient controller from australia long done: http://www.vrealities.com/vir1.html ForceFX one of the first force feedback joysticks: http://www.vrealities.com/forcefx.html must be at least 4-5 years old Almost everything on this page is discontinued: http://www.vrealities.com/force.html Brand new???? etc... | ||
| Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
anonymous, As stated above by the very manufacturer of the i-glasses SVGA 3D "Virtual Realities is able to offer the prices they do as a result of volume purchases". To confirm, we do not sell used units and this is final. It is very evident that you are an upset competitor. Try buying in volume, this should help. Regards, Virtual Realities | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Can I buy 10 Dynovisor (I mean phillips scuba) from you at $650.00/ea?? hahaha | ||
| Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
anonymous, Please note, that we do also have new stock of all the products mentioned above. Virtual Realities | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Oh in that case pencil me in for 10 ForceFX joysticks as well! They are brand new on the market right? | ||
| craig Rating: N/A |
Anonymous, Even if they got there supply ten years ago, if it is an unopened item that has never been used it is new... | ||
| Steve Henderson Rating: N/A |
Reading through the thread I do find it very hard to believe that they are selling it brand new at $950.00 while the manufacturer itself has them listed for $1599.00. Something seems fishy to me? As for Anonymous he seems to be upset about something but for the most part he is also right. | ||
| Virtual Realities Rating: N/A |
If there is a doubt please contact the manufacturer directly to confirm they are both new and in stock: ross@i-glasses.com Virtual Realities | ||
| Ross Rainville Rating: N/A |
Virtual Realities has been distributing i-O Display Systems products since the formation of the company in 1997. Over the years, Virtual Realities has sold more of our Head Mounted Displays than any other distributor. Due to the volume of units they purchase, they receive discounts which allow them to sell new models of our i-glasses SVGA 3D at the special price they have posted. Any questions can be directed to me at ross@i-glasses.com Regards, Ross R. Rainville Sales Manager i-O Display Systems, LLC | ||
| Doug Rating: N/A |
If $950 is the price for a new one what is the cost of one of these refurbs? | ||
| Neil Axe Rating: N/A |
This is crazy. First everyone complaines because the price of the i-glasses svga is too high. Now that it is lowered, people complain because it seems too cheap! | ||
| Ralk Klein Rating: N/A |
Yes what would the price be on the refurbished units? | ||
| newbie Rating: N/A |
Volume purchase? No way. How many units they can sell? One a day, maximum? If I were IO Display, would be very upset that any reseller sells the product 30-40% cheaper than their own listed price. By the way, what kind of 3D formats does is support? Interlaced. Above/Below/Pageflip, all of those? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Something just doesn't seem right! | ||
| syb Rating: N/A |
Hello again everyone, I would like to share what I think "doesn't seem right!"... ... and that is why are there not plenty of positive posts here asking questions along the lines of asking about how to *buy* at such a good price!?!? If you are reading this BB, you should know that this technology is *proven* now and the specs of the I-Glasses SVGA and i-Visor are really about what I think the 'consumer' market might be happy with... but they need the price to be "right". Surely a "under $1000 USD" for _3D_ SVGA is close enough to the "right" price?... it sure is here in my opinion in Australia since I bought my 21" Sony Trinitron last year for around that much. The Sony is a quality professional but *affordable* display, and I am confident that the I-Glasses will a quality professional display but only called "affordable" by say places like ZDNet/CNet, etc if it is <$1000USD. So why not ask some constructive questions like "How long is this special good for?, How many units are available?" or even just "Thanks to IO-Display and Virtual Realities Inc for giving us the opportunity to purchase such advanced technology for less than $1000 USD!" :-) | ||
| syb Rating: N/A |
Hmm, I should go to sleep but tonight I am VERY excited - i'll say why in a moment - and I feel like sharing more thoughts to this [unfortunately argumentative] thread: I have been doing research into what VR Gear to buy on-and-off for ~5years, with quite an intensive effort in the past few months. Just read some of my past posts to see how much I ramble on about all this! ;-) I have been waiting 5+ years to purchase a good quality HMD that I can use to develop stereoscopic software (with tracking). For me, this means replacing my "sit-down-at-computer" development environment with a fully 3D environment as my 'desktop'... including [to begin with] perhaps just VIM running inside a text console 'window' hanging in 3D. I love coding 3D graphics so I want experiment with a computing experience that is fully 3D and utilises our excellent spatial sense. Thus it has been my dream for a long time now to be free from the constraints of the (2D) "sitting-at-computer" paradigm for Human Computer Interaction. So today, I made an *informed* descision and have ordered & payed Virtual Realities Inc for a new I-Glasses SVGA 3D HMD... $1035 USD, *delivered* to me here in Perth, Western Australia. I am VERY EXCITED about this... and am happy to report that so far I have had excellent prompt customer service from Armand at Virtual Realities Inc. He even called me from his place in Texas [and I'm in Perth Western Australia] this evening to answer any remaining questions I had and to ensure we are in full agreement about how and where to ship the unit to. To answer a question I find amusing today: "How many units they can sell? One a day, maximum?" ... well newbie, they have sold at least one today! *grin* Even if they did only buy say 5->10 from IO Display why should it upset them or anyone else if IO-Display obviously must still be making *some* money from the deal and it also equates to "moving more product" as I think the industry would call it. AFAIK, simple market forces are that if a manufacturer gets more of a product out into a market then more of that product is likely to be sold. Who's next? - Newbie? - Ralf? - Neil?... another one maybe? ;-) - Doug? - Steve? - Craig? - Steven? - Anonymous? *LOL*... wow, you're /really/ funny except for the (illegal?) slander and impostering 'cause I know I could find someone (George Lucas) who *might* sell you a unopened, *not* refurbished and therefore *NEW* Star Wars figurine for maybe about $100,000+ USD? *grin* I hope most readers find this comment funny... and someone with more time to spare than I can post a definition and the legal implications of both slander and falsley posing as company you don't work for? === Lastly, *THANKYOU* again to Virtual Realities Inc & IO-Display for working together to try delivering to customers - including individual consumers like me - this hardware at that price! I am sure that if you can generate more demand thru lower pricing, then we can reasonably hope to see continued lower pricing... at least <$1000 USD. Wishing you all as great a day as I have had buying an I-Glasses SVGA 3D HMD, --"Anonymous". P.S. *grin*... ofcouse i meant: -- Syb. | ||
| syb Rating: N/A |
1 more thing... ... "Anonymous", whoever you are, where ever you are in the world could you please do me a small favour and give me a call *anytime* and justify to me personally what your problem is with Virtual Realities and/or IO-Display? My mobile: +61 413 254 356. What's yours? :-) I truely & honestly want to know how you or this *community* could possibly benifit from your statements above? I understand that this would probably be an international phone call for you but since I guestimate you could have earnt approx $10+ USD in the time you must have spent posting such things here... then I'm sure you would be able to afford to *speak* to my privately about all this. ===== On a somewhat related note, in a couple of months time, I look forward to trying to have regular VoIP audio conferencing talks with up to 4 ppl at a time about what we as a *community* can do to work together and make VR/AR, etc better for all of us! Software, Hardware, online and offline projects! :-) 3am... G'night All, --Syb. P.S. I will be v. busy studying for the next cpl of weeks so i definitely won't be back here till i do receive my shipment. I might let everyone know then if 'anonymous' decided to call me. *grin* P.P.S. I wonder if this particular 'anonymous' is tek-savvy enough to realise that if the oft' aloof nice guy Christoph that runs this place wanted to... it should be technically possible to find out your IP address, therefore your ISP and [depending on what country/state you live in] thence your real name, address etc so that... ... Ah, sorry it's none of my business, I just want to know "Why bother posting in the first place?" | ||
| FD Rating: N/A |
Syb, when your device arives, could you then review your device and post your comments. It is still a shame that you can not go to your local shop and try such a device before buying it. So i hope by reading some reviews i can make a picture for myself. Thanx, FD | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Blah blah blah What is the price of the refurbished units if the new ones are $950.00? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Syb: You paid $1035US? So you paid $85.00US to have it shipped from the USA to Australia? Wow that is crazy! Isn't there an Australian Distributor of these products? | ||
| syb Rating: N/A |
Excuse me everyone else, whilst I make my first and *only* direct reply to 'anonymous'... if she bothers to read it _all_!!! *GRIN* ========== If you are the same 'anonymous' as above then I infer that because you have not phoned me yet... that you actually *enjoy* this "public" attention and fully expect to continue to get some response from myself and other to your unpleasant and unwelcome statments. I see absolutely no good reason why anonyone here should reply to any unpleasant comment from any 'Anonymous' user. I will enjoy talking to you on the phone or via e-mail: syb@users.sourceforge.net ... but I refuse to waste any more time of the members of this community by directly replying/refuting your statments in public, no matter how what you say or imply about me. I hope that the other visitors - anonymous or not - to this webboard will also refrain from replying to any unpleasant comments by an Anonymous poster. *I* WILL NOT play any kind of public attention seeking game with you! Lastly, I would like you to know that eventually without even revealing your name publically... I and/or others will know who you are simply because if you keep posting here then someone will be smart enough to infer from all your postings who you are NOT... therefore who you probably are. You can't remain Anonymous forever in such a small community... So Anonymous please either call me, e-mail me or kindly provide me with a [freshly created anonymous webmail account] e-mail address where I can talk to you. Armand was kind enough call me from the US, why can't you? ========== And that's the last off-topic post I will make on this webboard. Now I will be back to doing important things like working, studying and doing research & software development to _contribute_ to this community. G'day from "the most isolated capital city in the world", --Syb P.S. There may be nice people in the community who want to know that it is possible to use a technology called "the Internet" to lookup UPS's website to tell you exactly how much it costs for them to ship from anywhere to anywhere in the world. *GRIN* P.P.S. International distributors for IO-Display Systems: http://www.i-glasses.com/Store/international.php3 | ||
| Syb Rating: N/A |
FD: I hope to work together with Neil Axe to put together a detailed online review of the I-Glasses SVGA 3D HMD. Perhaps Christoph will be kind enough to post it here on www.stereo3d.com, or else we could put it up at: www.stereovision.net http://www.guru3d.com/stereo/general/ CNet? ;-) On my own website? Cheers, --Syb. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
You paid $85.00US to have it shipped from the USA? Whoa that is extremely high! For someone who is so "community" oriented why wouldn't you support one of the companies in your own country? I'm sure the Australian companies will be pleased to know about this? | ||
| newbie Rating: N/A |
syd, I wonder why you are so upset, and spend so much time on this subject. You like it, then you buy it. You will definitely get a new one, no doubt. Selling refurbs as new is illegal, but normal people can simply feel suspicious that those could be refurbs. I also can feel suspicious, too. Why? I simply guess that all other I-O distributors as well as I-O should sell at the same or lt least similar price level. I-O is helping VR and killing other customers? What a waste of my time...... | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I have to disagree with newbie, if VR is able to buy bulk and sell at a better price all the power to them! I myself am glad to see these headsets at a sub $1000 price, it is about time!!!!!!!!!  P.S.Some of you guys need to get a life  | ||
| Ralf Klein Rating: N/A |
So what is the price on those Refurbs? I wonder why this question is being ignored? | ||
| Neil Axe Rating: N/A |
Maybe because there are no refurbs for sale. Carefully re-read this thread. Just do a search on "refurb" and read every case where it's mentioned and you will see that the idea of refurbished units was first brought up by the imposter i-o display representative, but nobody questioned this and just took it from there. So unless an official representative of IO Display says that refurbished units are available, there are none. | ||
| Michael Rating: N/A |
It sounds like Syb got a good price, but a bit of a warning to anyone not living in the USA and thinking of importing. I live in the EU and have to pay the following on anything I import from the US: Shipping cost I am not surprised it cost Syb $85 with insurance Credit Card surcharge for converting to Dollars at 2.5% Import duty at 3% Carriers customs processing fee of $15 VAT on top of all the above at 17.5% So to import a pair of i-glasses SVGA 3D at $950.00 would cost me about $1,300 with shipping and taxes. So if Australia is anything like Europe I must agree with Anonymous, check out your local supplier, assuming of course you have one. | ||
| Robert Michaels Rating: N/A |
The reason most manufacturers have a firm pricing policy is to stop problems like this. If I had just paid $1,599 on the i-glasses website and then found out that I could have bought them for $950 from VR I would be well P***** Off. Even if VR are buying for less than other distributors it looks like every other supplier is making over $500 on each unit. Can Ross please let us all know what we should be paying for their products. I for one will not be buying soon, maybe another supplier will be selling them for $750 next week. | ||
| Neil Axe Rating: N/A |
Haven't you ever heard of Manufactures Suggested Retail? Many times if you buy something straight from the manufacturer you will be charged full MSRP, yet if you buy from a 3rd party reseller you can buy if for less. Case in point - software. | ||
| Robert Michaels Rating: N/A |
I don't want to discourage free trade, if it was say $100 OK but $650 just seems a lot. Maybe the MSRP should come down a bit. I don't want to discourage VR either, good that they are bringing the prices down for us all. Maybe I will buy a pair after all, they may go up again. | ||
| Arnie Stein Rating: N/A |
Looks like VR already increased the price??? | ||
| Andy Lesniak Rating: N/A |
Just to let the forum know, I purchased a pair of i-glasses svga 3d from vrealities last week, and had a great experience, glasses work great, got the glasses within 3 days = happy customer, going to make a review of the unit sometime soon.. (damn the day job...) -Andy | ||
| Neil Axe Rating: N/A |
Welcome to the i-glasses svga club Andy! | ||
| Dave Austin Rating: N/A |
Reviews, please! | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Reviews, where are the reviews? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I hope everyone (I was one) who bought it for $950-$985 within the last 2 weeks will get a refund since the price on vrealities website is now $850. I haven't even received it yet! I can't speak for anyone else but I want at least a the difference refunded. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
This is a lie and we all know who posted it. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I want a partial refund like anyone else who purchased in the last few weeks! | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Ok Stewart, we hear you.. |
