| Author | Message | ||
     dave zerbst Rating: N/A |
Does the Virtual FX 2D to 3D Converter A104466 from razor3d work well? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
No! | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I just bought one and, well...Yes. It's not bad. It is, of course, not real 3D, but it's pretty good! I have been using it to watch annimation such as Justice League on Cartoon Network. Some sites sell it for $199 including 4 sets of LCD glasses. A pretty good deal. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
i own one as well, and am pleased with it....its the best of the 2d-3d systems out there. on some things( dvds like Raders of The Lost Ark,StarWars etc) it looks very good,almost as good as 3d shot with a NuView. a good deal for $199 i paid $299 back in August. | ||
| cedriclocqueneux Rating: N/A |
Hum, it looks good ! I want it, but is the quality good ? There is people that go out the screen, etc... ? I'm live in France: is it compatible with a PAL/Secam TV at 50Hz ? And the alimentation is only 110v ? Need i a simple adaptator, or an electric converter ? And a last question: do you know a good reseller in Europe (in France if possible, or else in the Europe). I prefer buy it in Europe than in USA. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I heard it uses plug pack so you'll need a 240V plug pack and I heard flicker is very bad for PAL | ||
| cedriclocqueneux Rating: N/A |
Yes, i have read the same thing... Hum, i think i'll test it, because i want also the Nuview, and i'm very curious. I'll make a big order... But i have search in Europe, i have find 2 resellers, but very expensive compared to USA ! I have send an email to razor3D to know if a order to France is possible, i wait their answer. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
edimensional has an office in uk, maybe they have it | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
the 3d is good but dosn't pop out of the screen. but the 3d effect is pleaseing and gives a very interesting depth feeling. not quite great stereoscopic pop out 3d......but a very good depth effect. overall i am pleased with the VirtualFX....i do love my NuView also!!!!! | ||
| cedriclocqueneux Rating: N/A |
Ok, thanks ! I have found a reseller in France. A little more expensive, but the material is modified to be compatible in France (220V and TV 50Hz). I wait reseller's answer, but i think i'll buy the Viirtual FX Converter and the Nu View ! :D If you like your Virtual FX and you love your Nuview, i think it will be the same thing for me ! :D | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Here is my scoop on 3D viewing. If you use these kits make sure you have a decent television (i.e. @ least 19" +) I am a big fan and use the 3D glasses for movies and console games on my TV with the Virtual FX. I also have the 3D gaming gear to use with my PC for the 3D laser scope feature in most of my first person shooters wich is simply amazing and has fantastic out of screen effects. If you have a big TV these kits are awesome. I know of a friend that used a lense to project his TV on a wall and converted it to 3D on the wall. He said it worked great. Now this is what I want to do too! Also someone said E-Dimensional. If you want to save some loot buy the Star Trek Kits that give you a bonus set of glasses. It is the same hardware as E-Dimensional sells. I bought all my gear from www.BuyPcMods.com over the phone and saved a lot of cash. I am in the USA but I saw that they will ship worldwide too. | ||
| the tiger Rating: N/A |
can anyone give me an adress for a reseller in europe for the virtual fx (220V and 50 Hz TV) ? thanks... | ||
| the tiger Rating: N/A |
... the best in germany... | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
yes, please, the name of a european reseller would be very helpful. | ||
| Richard Rating: N/A |
http://www.stereophotoworld.com/fx.asp Hope this helps! It's a pity they don't sell this gear in regular shops so that we could see it working before buying. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Does the Virtual FX 2D to 3D Converter is it compatible with a PAL TV at 100Hz;The quality is good; | ||
| V.S Rating: N/A |
It is compatible. I have tested with PHILIPS 32" idts 100HZ Digital Scan Match III line. You may look for photo of the TV here: http://www.really.ru/review/stereoscopic_video_system.html | ||
| The 3D Man Rating: N/A |
Hi. I have a PAL PHILIPS 76" Pixel Plus, which has a setting for 100Hz digital scan, but the VFX will not work. Only on the "Double Lines" setting (50Hz) does it work. The "Pixel Plus" setting, which is 75 Hz, doesn't work either. So I am surprised it works on V.s's 100 Hz. How can it? | ||
| The 3D Man Rating: N/A |
As the VFX only does 50 Hz, 25 cycles each eye in a second Your 100 Hz TV must do left field twice in 1/50th of a second right field twice in 1/50th etc | ||
| Peter Wimmer Rating: N/A |
> Your 100 Hz TV must do left field twice in 1/50th of a second right field twice in 1/50th etc Correct. Some older 100 Hz TVs work in this mode. However, keep in mind that the shutterglasses still flicker at 25 Hz, so it's not better than on a 50 Hz TV! | ||
| Tim Rating: N/A |
Can you modify the Virtual FX box Yourself?? | ||
| Tim Rating: N/A |
^^^^ I found a tiny Clip on the Front of my Box you see. So i was wondering if you could fix the box yourself for Zero $$$. | ||
| Dave Rating: N/A |
Works on my pal tv with a little flicker but pretty good, plays back true 3D as well as just converting 2d of course. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Hello my names Kyle and Im really strongly considering buying the Virtual FX system. Can anybody who owns the system describe in some kind of detail the images it produces. Thank you. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
i own a Virtual FX system it dose a very good 2d to 3d conversion. somethings get better 3d then others. new movies like Van Helsing, Spiderman 2, Hellboy, etc look even better in 3d. i am pleased with it. i understand other companies are working on a 2d-to -3d system for autostereoscopic HDTV.......now that will be awsum!!!!!!! | ||
| Peter Wimmer Rating: N/A |
I asked for it many times: Could one of the Virtual FX owners please capture the output of this device and upload a sample video (or just a single frame) to a web server so that we get a real impression how good the Virtual FX actually is? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
It works, but it's not worth $200. I had one and the effect was awesome, as long as there wasn't any light coming in from outside or glare. Also, i was constantly switching the settings to see wich was best. On top of that, it died when i accidentally left it on for a bout twelve hours. The company's answer when i asked if i could get it fixed, "buy another one." It's a really cool device, but for $200 or even less, i can get an xbox, a dvd player, or a lot of other things for my tv. I can even get a decent tv at that. I would buy another one, but i wouldn't pay more than about #50 for it. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Sure it wasn't just the plug pack that died, it's pretty rare for modern electronics to fail these days. Did you try another plug pack? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I'm sure, i checked the plug. It's fine. I did some troubleshooting and found that something is definitely bringing the unit down, ie, a component is failing, which is consistent with overuse/overheating. (Yes, i took it apart and ran some tests after i was told i couln't replace it) However, that's beside the point. I think i may have just gotten a dud, so i didn't take that into account when making my final evaluation. I came to my conclusion long before my module broke. Again, it's a cool gadget, but i don't feel that it's worth anywhere near what peoople are asking. | ||
| Russ Rating: N/A |
I think the product is prett neat. Probably about as good as you can get for real-time tv/movies, etc. I still have yet to master the settings. I hope the technology continues to grow. I just actually set mine up this weekend, got it from Realwebproductions.com for 130 - came w/ two pairs of glasses. I had a little trouble getting the battery in the remote, and probably should have just read the directions more thoroughly. Certain movies probably haev the potential to look awesome. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Does it work well with Xbox games? Which games work well? | ||
| John Rating: N/A |
This sounds great to bad it doesn't work with a Front Screen Projector. I would buy this in a second if It would work with my 100" screen. Does anyone know of a system that would work with a projector. | ||
| sbc Rating: N/A |
Softplus software works great, but it's for your PC. | ||
| WizardOfZo Rating: N/A |
The 3d effect on Non 3d movies is So So, but it does work OK for me on my Sony crt projectors. I dont think it will work with LCD or DLP projectors. I did have to reverse the L & R eyes for the proper 3d effect. Also, If you use a line doubler on you projector, you will not get the 3D to work properly. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
It would work with a depthQ DLP projector with an analog TV Tuner PCI card and Peter Wimmers Stereoscopic Player set to Live video and you'd need an Nvidia card with stereo drivers to make it work. | ||
| Patrick Rating: N/A |
I have a 55" Toshiba Theaterview and I just picked this product up. Some of the web sites state that VirtualFX 3D will work on CRT based projection TVs. There is no reason why it would not work on the standard projection TV because the refresh rates are about the same. Well, I ordered it 2nd day air and I will post the results. | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Rating: N/A |
Patrick, basically it doesn't matter if you use CRT or projection-CRT, although projection-tubes tend do produce more green-ghosting. However it'll only work if the electronics in the TV don't alter the refresh rate and don't mix fields. The Toshiba TheaterView 55H70 has tons of digital gimmicks in it which do exactly that. So unless you can switch this stuff off there may be problems. Anyway it kills me that there are people around here who believe in realtime 2D-3D-conversion. Christoph | ||
| Patrick Rating: N/A |
Christoph, I know what you are talking about with the 55H70 but I have the 55A60. The digital tweaks in this one are pretty few and can all be adjusted, the CRT used is pretty standard because this is an older model. I read multiple reviews from everyone and the all stated that for movies and television all this did was add a little depth. For all of the console games people reported to have nothing but good things to say. Until I get this thing in the mail I can't really defend it but I can see how the 2d to 3d conversion can be accomplished with software, I understand it wont be realtime though. I am assuming that the unit will split the image reduce the size of one and enlarge the other thus creating a 3d feeling or a little more depth perception. I am not expecting this product to make like IMAX quality stuff but if it can add a little depth to Ghost Recon 2 I will be satisfied. It bothers me though that they refuse to support it but it is understandable for a small company. | ||
| donny Rating: N/A |
im guessing that most of the people posting and responding are distribuiters of some sorts, however i will buy this product, because i can afford it and i am very curious. i would like to know which of these sites are to be trusted as far as waranties, delivering the product, etc. also ive noticed that on certain sites the Virtual FX 2D to 3D Converter is much cheaper (ex.$129) and it comes with a bunch of imax/3d movies. i believe that if nothing else at least the 3d movies will look decent. im buying it to watch star wars and for my video game system, so if anybody can help me with honest info \ thanks donny | ||
| donny Rating: N/A |
i forgot to ask, does anybody know if the virtual fx works on a 32" sony vega hd ready tv? my tv is like a regular tv, only flat screen and HD ready, so i bought it a couple of years ago and i dont know what "CRT" means. thanks again donny | ||
| Patrick Rating: N/A |
Donny, I believe the units are manufactured by edimensional.com. They have an affiliate program so thats why you see so many other places selling them. Your sony vega is technically a CRT (cathode ray tube) but the refresh rate is the key here. If you look at the settings on your monitor (on your computer) you can find a refresh rate adjustment area. Here is an example, you ever see a TV or computer monitor on TV? When you see the screen flashing that is how fast the electron gun shoots electrons into the front of the screen (I think its a phosphorous of some sort). The electrons are controlled by copper coils at the base of the tube, that is called a yoke, that magnetically direct the right beam to the right location on the screen. I should get my unit today so look forward to see if these things work on big screen TVs or not in my later post. My manual did not have the refresh rate for my television but yours might. | ||
| donny Rating: N/A |
thanks patrik i dont have a manual for my tv. the tv is called trinitron wega and its not hd but hiscan. 1080. the thing that bothers me its this "DRC MODE" which has "INTERLACED", "CINEMOTION", "PROGRESSIVE". interlaced for example says 4x density for moving pictures. i dont know what that means but im thinking that it might have something to do with the refresh rate. i went to both the sony and edimensional web site and i didint find anyting to help me. edimensonal didnt have a "contact us" link anyswhere so im wandering if anybody knows which distribuitor will take it back in case it doesnt work on my Tv thanks donny | ||
| donny Rating: N/A |
i found the "contact us" at edimensional.com. i was looking for it at the bottom of the page for some reason. well thanks again patrik, ill be ok from here. expect a dumbs up or down in 6-8weeks donny | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Donny if it doesn't work buy a cheap 34cm, or cheap bigger second tv to use it with. Avoid 100Hz or 120Hz TV's. The cheapest will probably work. Many expensive TV's deinterlace and destroy the 3d effect | ||
| BerserkDemon Rating: N/A |
Does it work with the X-Box? | ||
| enitsirhc Rating: N/A |
My boyfriend and I thought the virtual 3d tv converter would be pretty cool for playing PS2 games such as Gran Turismo 4, MK 4, Kenetica or even Shoot em up games like Unreal Tournament, Syphon Philter, Splinter Cell or flight simulator games etc. All I want are some honest reviews from people who have actualy purchased the converter. I have seen it advertised online for as little as 114.00 brand new with 2 sets of glasses. I'm tempted but not stooooopid! Please help!!!!I need reviews.......................... | ||
| stereofan Rating: N/A |
for $114 that is cheap......don't be a fool at that price its a bargin.....take a chance..i paid $299 back in 2001 | ||
| moe dee Rating: N/A |
Where is it at $114? | ||
| consao Rating: N/A |
Hi all, any body experience that the Virtual 3D FX will work on the movie projector which shoot the movie onto a 100" rolldown screen? I'm having the optoma H77 projector Thanks | ||
| The Don mega Rating: N/A |
I've purchased the Virtual 3D FX about a month ago from the DVD Attic on E-bay for $98.99 and got the converter, 2 sets of spectacles, and 5 movies. It does work!! It adds a good sense of depth. Not jumping off the screen so much as getting you closer to the action. Some games it can make me a little queezy but most games its kewl. Especially the driving games and FPS's. I can't use it too long with out getting an uneasy feeling in my stomach. I'm not sure about the paralax settings though. If anybody knows the optimal settings of this thing for some body that has 20/20 vision (thanks to laser eye surgery) please post them here. | ||
| Derrick Miles (Paco_deth) New member Username: Paco_deth Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2006 Rating: N/A |
http://razor3d.stores.yahoo.net/converter.html Don't know the quality of this site, but just doing a quick froogle search came up with this one that seems to sell it for a little under $100 with two sets of glasses | ||
| Derrick Miles (Paco_deth) New member Username: Paco_deth Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2006 Rating: N/A |
for what its worth, I decided to order a set, the VirtualFX with 2 pairs of wireless glasses from a reseller on ebay selling them for about $68 with $18 shipping. Unfortunately most of the displays I own probably wont work, 2 LCD TV's, a DLP Projector. But my 53" Panasonic Widescreen HDTV which I believe is CRT based might work, I hope. Worst case scenario I may have the perfect displays in storage I can use, a 33" Mitusbishi CRT computer monitor (800x600 max tho). A Mitsubishi 29" CRT computer monitor (1280x1024 max) and a Barco Graphics 33" CRT computer monitor (800x600 max, but best quality picture). I'll try to post reviews once I get them in. | ||
| m connick (Connick) New member Username: Connick Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 Rating: N/A |
I bought the Virtual FX 2D to 3D converter and must say that overall I am satisfied with the device. For those who want to know how it works and how well it works I will provide some explanation from my experience with the product. How does it work? Well, the "millions of calculations" bit that they supply from the maufacturer and reseller sites is a bit misleading. Although the system does a fair job with real-time image processing, the bulk of the 3D effect depends on the mode you use. The best way to explain what I mean is by discussing Video Game mode. Imagine a screenshot of your average 3rd person shooter like Max Payne or a driving game like PGR. The lower 3rd of the screen contains your character and the ground that you are standing/driving on. The middle 3rd of the screen is the road/battlefield going off into the distance. The remaining top 3rd is generally sky or distant buildings or mountains. In Video Game mode the VFX Converter assumes that this is the perspective and so the lower portion of the screen looks close, the middle of the screen gradually becomes more distant and the top of the screen looks very distant. On top of this 3D "template" there is a little bit of active image processing where individual characters/vehicles/etc get separated out. Almost all of the modes tend to use some sort of "template" for assigning depth to the image. Another example would be Talk Show mode. The left and right side of the screen appear distant while figures in the center of the screen appear close. The task of separating Dr. Phil from the background is picked up by the image processing calculations. How well does it work? Well this is hit or miss depending on how much 3D you are expecting and what you are willing to put up with. Setup is damn easy and requires virtually no skill at all. The glasses themselves are lightweight and run off watch batteries that supposedly last about 40 hours. Basically, your experience will depend on what you are trying to watch. For video games where the perspective is the one described above, you are in for a treat. Hordes of enemies trail off into the distance. Your character is close and other objects like signs and buildings clearly appear to be behind one another. If you are playing a game with an unconventional perspective then the depth effect will look wierd in Video Game mode. Personally, I find that Music Video works as an OK substitute as it doesn't predefine the perspective but relies more on image processing to pick out small objects like Tetris blocks or my good friend Viewtiful Joe. Video Game mode gives much more depth but because it assumes your vantage point it might look funny. Music Video mode doesn't have the same level of depth, but the depth that is present will be more correct. For TV and movies it really depends on what you watch. Slow, panning shots with big characters and clearly defined objects do nicely in Action 1 mode. With programs where there is a lot of fast paced action and little things flying around the converter sometimes falls short. Utilizing the different modes helps, but there are definitely cases where the movie or TV show you want to watch is just going to look weird (whether for a moment or for the whole thing). Here are what the 5 modes do: -Video Game: As stated above, assumes a perspective. Bottom of screen appears close and then gradually further away as you get to the top of the screen. Has sub-modes for 2-player vertical or horizontal as well as 3 and 4-player. -Action 1: Relies almost solely on image processing, tries to give as much depth as possible. Does best with big clunky objects like the Hulk. -Talk Show: Assumes that people will be in the center of the screen and that there will be background items to the left and right. Image processing tries to separate the finer details. -Action 2: Pretty much the same as Action 1 except that the top of the screen is assumed to be sky or a stadium and so it appears distant. -Music Video: Doesn't make any assumptions about perspective. Uses image processing to pick out all sorts of moving bits and pieces. Not very "deep" but tends to be more correct. Since you're using LCD shutter glasses, all modes suffer from a few drawbacks: One, the brightness of the image is reduced a little. Simply adjusting the brightness on your TV fixes this but unless you plan on using the converter for a stretch, you might not want to even bother upping the brightness. Either way, it's not a major drawback, but it is noticable. Two, the image is blurry at times. Because the image is split in two and then rejoined using the glasses you will see a noticable difference in image quality. Small text and fine details become unreadable when the converter is in use. Big drawback if you want to use this for a game involving tiny text or if you want to read the ticker on the bottom of the screen while watching a sporting event. Effectively ruins mini-maps etc, but you can always turn the converter off with the remote. Troublesome, but generally not a major issue. Three, there is a constant flicker. You certainly notice it at first, but if you are watching something of average brightness you won't even percieve the flicker after about 30 seconds. Unfortunately, bright objects that are white or yellow make the flicker really noticeable. Shows like the Simpsons suffer because the characters themselves are yellow and appear to flicker. The same goes for bright skies or lights. Personally I'm not bothered by the flicker that much, but some people might find it annoying. On the whole, I really like the device. Even though it doesn't hit the mark 100% of the time, it is versatile enough that you can use it with most of your media. For every show or game that doesn't work on the system you will have another one that really looks cool. Odd camera angles and fast paced action sometimes confuse the converter but then again there are instances where the device really hits the nail on the head and delivers standout depth effects. Worth the money if you are a gamer, sports fan or 3D fanatic. Not worth the money if you are an epileptic, technophobe or are expecting no less than IMAX 3D. | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 42 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I love the wireless feature, but you don't need this expensive model to go wireless--there are cheaper models that don't have the alledged 3D simulator. One major problem I have with this unit is the fact that it has to be powered on even to watch regular TV. I have read of a few instances where people (and one friend) complained that they left their unit on all night and it burned out, so I would prefer not to have to turn it on at all when watching regular TV. However, I have left mine on overnight (and longer) with no issues. I don't know if the other 3D models are required to be turned on during regular TV use (can anyone comment on the other wireless models?). For me, the pseudo-3D effect on live broadcasts or 2D movies is really not of use. Objects don't appear separated from one another, and the description above is pretty accurate as to how the "3d" effect is accomplished. Of course, just looking at the description above tells you this is not 3D. It's really simulating the 'look' of watching a 3D flick rather than actually creating any 3D effect. I wish I could explain it better than that, but you know exactly what I mean if you own one of these. Also, the glasses that came with it (push-button/terminator style) are kind of glitchy in that the battery compartment design is somewhat weak. When I got it at first, the shuttering would stop intermittently...and it seemed to happen when I smiled....I was thinking "wtf?"...turns out the smiling (or many other facial movements) was flexing my face enough to flex the glasses, and that was enough to move the batteries such that contact would be lost with the leads in the battery compartment (I fixed this by tucking a small piece of paper, folded on itself a couple of times to thicken it, between the battery door and the topmost battery--they work perfectly now). I have the "elsa" style glasses also and prefer those. Good luck finding them, though. (Message edited by rrrrob on March 10, 2007) (Message edited by rrrrob on March 10, 2007) (Message edited by rrrrob on March 10, 2007) |
