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JoshCobb

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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 2:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

For anyone who is interested, Kodak will be demonstrating a new type of autostereoscopic display at the Game Developers Conference at the San Jose Convention Center on March 23-26. It's a very new technology that allows a desktop display to present each eye an image that looks like it is in a big screen movie theater. Each eye gets an SXGA image at 45 degrees by 36 degrees field of view. We have a bunch of games running. Madden 2004 feels like you're in the game! If you are near San Jose, California, you might like to see it.
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Lars Ahnland

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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 9:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I don´t get it. How can a single display show two different pictures for each eye without shutterglasses? And how can you say anything about FOV when you don´t know how far from the screen the viewer is (I mean it varies, doesn´t it)? This sounds interesting though, so please explain.
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Josh

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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Lars, the system has 2 LCD screens, one for each eye. They are projected by an optical system into your eyes to create a virtual image with the user focused at infinity. It feels like you're floating in a movie theater about 1 1/2 screen heights away.
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BOPrey

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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 1:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Lars,

JoshCobb is talking about an autostereoscopic disaplay (single display show two left/right pictures to each eye without shutterglasses). Hope you know what that is. Some threads here acturally have extensive discussion on this technology.
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Josh

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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 2:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

BOPrey,

I'm not sure you're thinking about the same technology. There have been a couple of obscure papers given on it at some conferences, but I haven't seen anything on this website that references it. Which threads are you speaking of?
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BOPrey

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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 3:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Lars,

Well, this tech has been on the news lately relating to 3D. You can look for the thread "Yahoo news blurb about Sharps 3D notebook". Current, Sharp has a product, and other company in the US(don't remember its name) also has a product(display only). I am working on a display accessary for mid/low end users as well.
Quality is not as good as other, but the price is much much lower.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 4:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

when will this new Kodak autostereoscopic 3d or like technology be on the consumer market? also how to get in on the content provider part? dose the content need a spicial process? or is it any stereoscopic content like field sequential video footage?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 5:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

when will this new Kodak autostereoscopic 3d or like technology be on the consumer market? also how to get in on the content provider part? dose the content need a spicial process? or is it any stereoscopic content like field sequential video footage?dose Kodak or anyone else have a web site on this new 3d technology?
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Josh

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

There's a press release about it here: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040315/155461_1.html

This is not the Sharp technology, it's something completely different. It does not use parallax barriers or lenticular screens. It has 2 separate screens, so it requires a left image and a right image to be sent to each screen. This can be done out of a dual head VGA or in page flip mode with a demultiplexer.
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BOPrey

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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 4:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You are right Josh. It won't surprise me when we finally see, it will look funny.
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Anonymoose

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

IMHO a lame way to go for a desktop display. Kodak used to have a big (office cubicle) sized version of this that they made for the military (for a simulator). It gives an excellent 3D image but the problem is that you have to put your eyes into two little 35 mm circles where all the light is focused - making it even more restrictive than the other autostereo displays.

They could have gotten the same effect in a much easier manner: take two projectors and mount them on the table, focus them at infinity, and let the user look through the two 35mm lenses like a pair of binoculars, at the screens inside. Duh!

PS: If you try this at home, be sure to install a nice DARK filter so that you don't burn your eyes out.
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BOPrey

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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Friend of mine went to the show and spoke to someone about this. He told me last night, as far as 3D display goes, this Kodak thing is a joke. Kind of reminds him of ViewMaster, except it is bigger.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 2:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I agree it is a joke. I saw it at the SPIE Conference in San Jose back in January. It reminded me of an old Nickelodeon. [What can you expect from film guys...] You have to put your face and eyes right up to the display to see it. This is ridiculous. Only one person can view it at a time. Futhermore, it is expensive. You could do much better with multiple sets of good wireless LCD shutter-glasses and a DLP projector that runs at 96 or 120 FPS (Christie Mirage or Barco Galaxy). Then multiple people can view 1280x1024 images without any restrictions. But this system is hopeless.
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Josh,

please, contact me via tp@porrmann-awater.com. I would like to know professional details about that system. Here in Germany there is an exibithion where a good working autostereoscopic system would be very a very fine answer to some problems.
sincerly
-Thomas Porrmann
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 4:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

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