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feremans

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Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2004 - 1:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Dear Sir,

We are proud to present you with the first results on our
3d television project.
3d cameras and conversion from 2d (movies or shows) to 3d is possible,
even live.

Please have a look at www.3dfilter.com
and at www.3dfilters.com/restricted.

These examples are made with homecameras but may show to you that the results are stunning.

We are prepared to show you this technology and are looking for interested television networks.

Further information can be obtained by phoning me at
+32475878972

yours sincerely,

prof. E;E.Feremans
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Devil Master

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Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2004 - 9:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

So, let's see:
1) a "restricted site" which is not
2) a collection of photos and movies which have nothing to do with stereoscopy
3) a collection of wacky theories: the depth we "perceive" when we close an eye is the one we remember from when we had both eyes open; we also use movement as a cue for depth
4) a misleading use of terms: a 2D image contains no information for depth and the function of a filter is to FILTER, which is, to SUBTRACT, redundant information; there is no way a FILTER can ADD any information to anything
5) only an email and a phone number as a means of contact, no whereabouts of your company

Nice try, dude. Better luck next time.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The 'restricted' movies are not even properly deinterlaced. Can't imagine somebody without any background in TV technology can develop a 3D-TV system!?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 2:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Dear sirs,
1)Restricted to 3d lovers...
2) filters may add information (colour filters,various effects)
3) when you close one eye you don't see the same kind of "flatness" you have when watching a movie on a screen...
In fact you perceive depth, even if you where to look at a seen you did not see before with both eyes opened.
4) we are no company yet : the works are under construction. Have another look...
De interlacing and other problems are due to lack of "classical" video knowledge, poor equipment and because 99 percent of our effects are optical.
Wait and see.

Prof Eric Feremans
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 9:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi there Prof Eric Feremans

Thank you for taking the trouble to post here.

When is your paper due for publication in Nature?

I'd really like to read it and understand how your system works.

I didn't get the impression of depth from your examples as I had hoped but this could be down to the reasons pointed out above.

I have a few guesses but thats all they are.

Good luck and all the best

Unclebob
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Devil Master

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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

1) That makes no sense and has no purpose. If that site was really restricted, one would need an authorization to enter; instead anyone can enter.
2) That is plainly wrong.
About color filters: if you cover your eyes, for example, with a red filter, everything you see will turn red or black, but that does not mean the filter ADDED the "red" color information to the scene, it just means it blocked every color (sunlight is white because it includes every color, in case you don't know) EXCEPT RED. Try looking at something blue with a red filter, and see if the filter adds anything... and before you say "it added the 'black' color information" to the blue thing, no it did not. It blocked the blue light reflected by the object before it reached your eyes.
About "various effects": what are you talking about, exactly?
3) No, you just BELIEVE you are perceiving depth, but in fact you are not, and this experiment will hopefully convince you.
- activate the stereo mode in any application that supports it, and look at the screen with your shutterglasses on. You'll think: "Yeah, it's in stereo now."
- Close an eye. You'll think: "How can it be?, it's still in stereo!"
- While keeping that eye closed, deactivate the stereo mode. You'll think: "Oh my god, it's STILL in stereo!"
- Reactvate the stereo mode and reopen that eye. You'll think: "Well no, it was NOT in stereo!"
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

this kind of wait and see mentality of typical of the 3d biz

there have been countless other people in the past that have done this to raise money and keep people believing in nonsense

wish there was some form of 3d police to stop it

try presenting a paper at the spie stereoscopic conference
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Devil Master

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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

And I just noticed something else:
"if you WHERE to look at a SEEN you did not see before"
Until now, I thought that professors had a larger baggage of knowledge than laypeople, and yet you can't even spell WERE and SCENE!
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sammiek

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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ya know, there might be something to this... when I closed one eye and viewed a couple of the movies in full screen, it was like my brain tricked my eyes into thinking it was in stereoscopic 3D. The effect was truly impressive at times. This is definitely something that merits attention.
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Devil Master

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Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Yeah, it's because when you close an eye you don't perceive depth anywhere and your brain tries to compensate this... even where there is no depth to begin with.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 4:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

what are you guys talking about? LSD makes all my DVDs 3D ;-D j/k
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bigtabs

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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You DO see depth with one eye. It's called focus.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 4:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thanks for your site!

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