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     Anonymous Rating: N/A |
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2005-03-18T085249Z_01_DEN830004_RTRUKOC_0_FILM-3D.xml | ||
| GianCarlo Rating: N/A |
Anything that is CG can instantly be made 3D because it was drawn in 3D so lots of the Star Wars stuff is ready to go with very little human editing required. But unless something was originally filmed in 3D I really don't know how you make it 3D later on without lots of work. Cutting objects out of a scene and assigning depth to them is pretty easy, but each object will look like a flat sprite. If the object is relaively flat or thin, you won't notice, however. Any object that rotates horizontally during a scene can also be made fully 3D buy telling a software program exactly how it rotated and moved during a scene. But to make 2D content fully 3D all the time is an incredible undertaking - unless this software has some incredble fuzzy logic behind it that minimizes the human guidance of the process. Anyways, a 3D revolution is coming eventually... first with video games, then theatres, and finally with DVDs... but it's going to be a while... Anyone know more about how this incredible software Lucas has works? | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Rating: N/A |
### Anything that is CG can instantly be made 3D because it was drawn in 3D ### Not neccessarily. These guys make heavy use of 2D-painting software also. They render certain objects in 3D, but then import them into a 2D-painter to combine them with other 3D-objects, hand-painted back-planes, 2D-live-footage, etc. Then they do corrections by hand and use filters on the whole scene. So in the end they have almost the same problems as with a movie which was entirely shot in 2D by a camera. Christoph | ||
| M.H. Rating: N/A |
Christoph is totaly right. IMAX people had mentioend this when asked 'Why not to create stereo version of clasical CG movies ?'. The answer was - it will be de-facto re creating the movies from zero, not worth the investment. It is neccesaru to have the 3D stereo version in the mind during the whole proces - as it was done with Poalr Express. | ||
| Neil Rating: N/A |
I have been a "lurker" on this board for many years. We at In-Three, Inc. have been working "under the radar" for over 5 years on our proprietary 2D-to-3D conversion process. We call what we do "Dimensionalization" and I can assure you it is nothing like anything you have ever seen. It is completely realistic. And there is no eye fatigue watching Dimensionalized content. George Lucas and many, many others have seen and fully endorse our process. In fact, George was kind enough to introduce examples of our work to the industry at ShoWest 2005 last week. At the end of our portion of the 3D presentations he announced that he plans to Dimensionalize all 6 episodes of Star Wars, starting in 2007 (the 30th anniversary of the first episode - Episode IV) using our process. We actually showed the first reel of "Star Wars - Episode IV" at this show to over 2000 attendees. We showed several other examples of well-known blockbuster movies as well. Of course ever since ShoWest 2005 it has been a very crazy time for us. But I have been occasionally monitoring this board for many years, just waiting for the day we could finally talk about what we are doing. I can't promise to answer all your questions, but I will try to check in from time to time and do the best I can - time permitting. Neil Feldman Vice-President In-Three, Inc. | ||
| StereoGamer Rating: N/A |
Thanks Niel for becoming visible. Your work sounds interesting, but since you've looked at this site for some time I think you can agree that people will rightly view this tech with some degree of sceptisism. I would like to ask if your process is similar to another company that was in LA C-something, can't remember the name that did a semi-manual procedure to convert video to 3d? Their work was the only stuff I saw that looked halfway decent, but it was not an easy process as it involved some manual procedures. I would liken it to Ted Turner's colorization process. Used some automation but is still basically a manual process. You have to identify the "objects" and their color, then the S/W tries to continue the process on subsequent frames. Thanks in advance for your response. - StereoGamer | ||
| StereoGamer Rating: N/A |
Just saw your responses under this topic: http://www.stereo3d.com/discus/messages/24/3202.html?1112043784 but any further info is welcome. - StereoGamer | ||
| Neil Rating: N/A |
Dear StereoGamer, Since you have not mentioned the actual name of this other company I cannot respond to your question. I have seen work done by DDD and it does not compare to what we do. Of course I would expect everyone here to be skeptical. Just keep in mind that our real "jury" was and is a who's-who of the top Hollywood creative filmmakers. They are far more judgmental and protective of quality than anyone on this board. In addition to George Lucas and Peter Jackson you can add Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenburg, top Studio execs at virtually every Studio, and even Tom Cruise. They all love it. You will too, I hope. | ||
| Peter Wimmer Rating: N/A |
> They are far more judgmental and protective of quality than anyone on this board. Hopefully they are. At least James Cameron isn't, his Ghosts of the Abyss is the worst IMAX 3D movie ever made. It has lots of stereoscopic alignment errors. Being a Hollywood filmmaker doesn't necessarily mean to have all the skills to make good 3D movies. Creating a good 3D movie is more complicated than just use two cameras or add the 3D effect in post. Scene composition has to be different, too. For example, in a 2D movie, a blurred background looks great because it emphasises the objects in the foreground (it's a monocular depth cue). In 3D, a infinite depth of field is desired, a blurred background is really annoying because you don't expect to see a blurred image when converging your eyes to infinite distance. Peter | ||
| Philip Heggie Rating: N/A |
Neil please checkout the following yahoo 3dtv group http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/3dtv/ You'll find years of wisdom in making good 3d movies because some members are real experts even some pioneers involved in making real 3d movies classics. Use your influence in hollywood to employ people who know what they are doing in 3d. Traditionally it's who you know not what you know. Give a kid a break. Cheers Philip | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
my son is a DP in Hollywood. he is very critical of any 2d-3d conversion. he got to see the clips of the STarWars converted to 3d. he said they were very good,much better then he expected,he admitted he was impressed.i cant wait to get to see these 3d clips. Neil will Lucas give us (the general public) a chance to get to see these STARWARS 3d clips anytime soon? thanks | ||
| Neil Rating: N/A |
Peter, Although James Cameron was part of the 3D Digital presentation at ShoWest, he was showing his own material, not our Dimensionalized clips. He also showed some scenes from The Polar Express and from Spy Kids 3D. Both Robert Zemekis and Robert Rodriquez were on hand in the audience. We were happy to be part of this impressive line-up. But I will not share any review of their contributions or their work. For our part of the show we screened Dimensionalized 3D clips from the following films: Star Wars-Episode II, followed by Top Gun, followed by Lilo & Stitch, followed by a video testimonial from Peter Jackson, followed by the entire 1st reel of Star Wars-Episode IV. Our portion of the show was introduced and hosted by George Lucas. | ||
| Neil Rating: N/A |
Philip, I would suspect that after last weeks history making event at ShoWest there will soon be lots of opportunities for those experts (or novices) who wish to make spectacular 3D content. The killer app for Digital Cinema is 3D. It is coming to a theater near you - but only if you can convince your local theatre chain to invest in 3D Digital Cinema. That is the key now. |
