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Cristiano Messaad

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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Straightforward question. Which 3D glasses would you recommend TODAY ? What is the Best Buy presently (April 2005) ?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 6:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

http://www.edimensional.com/index.php?cPath=21
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Cristiano Messaad

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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I would like to have Christoph's opinion too if possible...
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The shutterglasses Top 20 is still valid:
http://www.stereo3d.com/recommend.htm#shutter

The only new glasses I'm aware of, which aren't covered in my reviews are the latest e-dim glasses which are modified for LCD-monitors.

The main focus of the Top 20 is compatibility. If you're after quality check out the NuVision 60GX or even StereoGraphics.

The most bang for the buck you'll get from ELSA-glasses at ebay. On german ebay http://www.ebay.de/ you'll find them for around 10 EURO. The LCD-shutters are of high quality, they run with the nVidia driver and they even have a professional VESA DIN-3 connector. The wireless model reportedly has a high defect ratio. (However I have several of them and they still work.) With the wired model you're on the save side.

Christoph
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Cristiano Messaad

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Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thank you very much, Christoph! I did read your Top20 recommendations page! Very well done...I just thought it was a bit outdated looking at when your reviews had been made and today I would be interested in knowing which shutterglasses work best with the modern system.

For instance, I read of people that think that the latest eDimensional glasses that claim to be compatible with ATI and LCD work actually like crap with non nVidia cards (despite their own driver) and LCD monitors so...You will understand my confusion...

I think you did a great job there with the reviews, Christoph! Thanks for that!
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Cristiano Messaad

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Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi again, Christoph...I have one last question for you please...Would you personally choose one ELSA Revelator or one eDimensional 3D system ?

I noticed that Elsa is much furthe down in the "Best Buy list" but I can't understand actually why...The glasses seem to be very good...Is it because of a poor controller ?

Please let me know your opinion of expert.

The NuVision is too expensive for my pocket now but I am unsure about picking Elsa Revelator or eDimensional Wired 3D...Thanks again!

Cristiano
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The eDim and the ELSA glasses are manufactured by the same company iO-Display/Ilixco. The glasses where actually identical or virtually identical in the past. Now eDim has a newer version with different polarization properties for LCD monitors.

The eDim controller is more powerful, but with the nVidia driver it behaves like the ELSA. Actually the ELSA - and the nVidia driver for that matter - doesn't require a controller, it's not much more than a cable. It's very proprietary. Without the nVidia driver or without a professional VGA with DIN-3 connector the ELSA will remain dead.

So the ELSA, which is discontinued for some time now, has to possible advantages: cheap price on ebay and maybe less dampening of the VGA-signal.

The eDim controller is more powerful and supports more modes which are important for the eDim ATI-driver and for other platforms/applications which can't use the nVidia driver.
What I miss on the eDim controller are buttons for manual override (unless this has changed recently).

###eDimensional glasses that claim to be compatible with ATI and LCD work actually like crap with non nVidia cards (despite their own driver) and LCD monitors so...You will understand my confusion...###

We have to distinguish between the hard- and the software. The problems with ATI are ATI's fault, not the fault of the glasses. ATI has no stereo-driver of it's own and they don't seem to support eDim efforts very well. The nVidia stereo-driver comes from within the nVidia development department, from the source.

I haven't tested the LCD-version of the eDim. However it's clear that there's hardly a LCD-monitor which can do more than 75Hz. So you will have at least strong flicker. Ghosting and sync-problems are also a possibility. These are inherent problems of the LCD-technology and there's not much eDim can do about.

Christoph
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Cristiano Messaad

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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thank you again for your highly appreciated opinion. I have just now bough on Ebay.de a pair of Elsa glasses for 16 Euro (plus 17 Euro -sigh- for shipping)!

I hope the virtual number 1 in your recommendation Best Buy will soon find investors willing to produce and distribute those excellent glasses.

Too bad that your review is two years old now and the hopes that VNM Virtual-i will be available to the masses are close to zero...:(

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