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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Continued from

http://www.stereo3d.com/discus/messages/24/3202.html?1115477648
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M.H.

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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

nickn Na:
Perfect ! Interlaced DV is O.K. ... The DV compression algortihm automaticaly detects to big diferences in the lines and chose proper separated coding .... I am looking forward to the DV version of your samples ....
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 3:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

thanks Christoph!!!!!!
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 1:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

sorry to be a complete noob but, how can you view those 2d to 3d video's nick posted? Which type of glasses are required, anaglyph, polarized, shutter glasses?
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M.H.

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Anonymous: load Peter Wimmer Stereoscopic Player and you can use any method/glasses you want.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 3:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hey Joseph

Interesting articles on your website about In-Three vs Imax.

What happened to the Rick McCallum (Star Wars producer) interview that your site indicated was to be posted last week? Does Lucas have a deal with In-Three yet to make Star Wars 3-D?
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Nick Na

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Dear, John Semper

I'm Nick Na

I failed in all my attempts to send the reply message to you.

The error message is as follows
Error Message : 554- (RTR:DU) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554rtrdu.html
554- AOL does not accept e-mail transactions from dynamic or residential

Would you show me the others mail address?
and i will send to you the mail about "Company name" and "information of AnotherWorld, Inc.."

Thank you
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M.H.

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Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Nick Na:
Thank you for putting the Tarzan DV compresed version on your WWW (as well ofr the non-compresed still images conversion examples).
I am just donwloading ....
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Frank Castillo

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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 6:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

There was a link to Joseph's interview with Rick Mccallum on theforce.net. I followed it there and it's kind of interesting. The link to his article is www.worldenteractive.com/rickmccallum.htm.

Frank
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clyde

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 6:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

About Stereoscopic Piracy.... RickmMccallum says "Security is a serious and ongoing issue for every movie and has been for the last decade. But one of the really cool things about digital 3-D is that you simply can’t pirate it or copy it in a theatre"
...What sense does that make??? Does he mean people who smuggle camcorders into theatres and make the famed "camera prints"?
Thats really an outdated way to pirate films..
While it maybe true that *BECAUSE* exisiting prints were in celluloid form, it was probably the only "easy" way to pirate a film...
..but with movie producers/directors insiting on going digital, the irony is that the film will be available for pirating in all its digital glory much more easily with even half an hour's access to the harddisk on the playout server.

Oh and for the budding digital camera print pirate, it wont be long before they try two Samsung cellphone cameras recording thru the active shutter lenses of the glasses ;)

or some new micro minidv dual rig, and separate left/right views even :)

(ok its a silly though, but hey!)
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Clyde
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clyde

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 6:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

on second thoughts, most un-initiated hollywood types, figure its hard to pirate digital-3d films cause they work only with all the expensive projectors/shutterglasses etc.

not realizing if someone gets their hands on the left/right files, they can easily convert to any format including our famous "half color" anaglyph for home use :)

Clyde
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

>or some new micro minidv dual rig, and separate left/right views even

I already did this both with polarized and shutter glasses, of course not in a cinema but in a virtual reality lab... It works very well and when using two small DV cameras, the whole system is not larger than many 2D cameras. Conclusion: 3D movies can be pirated as simple as flat movies.
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clyde

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

that confirms it then.. Hollywood does need to learn a bit more.
Ps . How did you manage recoring thru polarized glasses?
Shutter glasses I can figure out.

Regards
Clyde
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clyde

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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 7:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

ok, just thought about it, yes it would work the same, thru passive polarizers as well
Clyde
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clyde

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Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 6:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

on a different note, just saw a documentary on lucas on the history channel.. very inspiring to be honest, and its a blessing that all said and done he's pushing for 3d as the new medium for movie making

Clyde
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anonymous

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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have just seen the film The Phantom Menace directed by George Lucas. This is probably one of the worst films I have ever seen. I knew I was going to be seeing something very bad because of the reviews I had read but it was worse than I thought. The script is ludicrous, boring, dull and childish. Nearly everything is 3-D computer generated animation and although this technique is good when used in conjunction with real scenarios and with animated objects (like Jurassic Park), it looks dreadful when used to substitute scenarios. The art direction is ugly and the backgrounds look like matte paintings, the last scene of the film says it all. In comparison, his film Star Wars, from the seventies, looks gorgeous with amazing miniatures and special effects.

After seeing this film, which had probably gone straight to video had it not been for the tag Star Wars attached to it, I do not give any credibility to the criteria of a director who has been able to destroy his own previous creation (Star Wars) so badly.

It also worries me that some people in this forum are comparing images seen on a computer screen to those shown on an IMAX screen!!!! Some defects perceptible on an IMAX screen would not be noticeable on a computer screen.

Anyway, a very interesting debate on computer software but very worrying when it comes to aesthetics.

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M.H.

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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

According SW III. I thing it was not so bad as you write, or beter to say it was not bad at all. The Anakin talks with the Imperator was one of the bright moments. If I did not like something - it was too much action for such a short movie.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 4:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

"""Nearly everything is 3-D computer generated animation and although this technique is good when used in conjunction with real scenarios and with animated objects (like Jurassic Park), it looks dreadful when used to substitute scenarios."""

agreed.. I think ILM got completely "schooled" by Weta Digital who obviously can do CGI MUCH better than them. I hope George Lucas didn't make the same mistakes with EP3 but I havent seen it yet. If he was smart he would've hired Weta to do EP3 but I guess he wants all the movies to look consistently fake and plastic... and inconsistent with his previous Star Wars movies that were great.. I guess if that was his goal than he did a bang up job. Oh and BTW, I would trust Peter Jackson opinions on 3D movies because he seems to know what he's doing.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 8:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I've been keeping my eye on this thread for a little while, it's a very interesting topic. I have been a fan of stereoscopic movies since the early 80s when I first saw Jaws 3D. I do a LOT of video editing with 3D movies and the one thing I will say is that DivX and 3D DO NOT get along! If you need to use compression when editing/converting 3D, I would HIGHLY recommend Xvid. Try compressing a 3D movie using DivX at 4000bps, then try compressing the same movie using Xvid at 4000bps - The difference is staggering! On the flip side, DivX is my preferred codec for 2D!

ChrisC
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi,

Some words about codecs: DivX and Xvid are basically the same - MPEG 4 advanced simple profile. The difference is that DivX is a commercial solution and Xvid is open source (and its use is illegal without paying licence fees to the MPEG LA, this to be said for all of you who plan to use it commerically).

Currently, the Xvid implementation seems to be slighly better than DivX, but it mainly depends on the settings you use. For interlaced 3D, both codecs fail, but for over/under and side-by-side format, both are well suited.

From the commerical point of view, it might be a reasonable option to use Windows Media instead, because it can be used legally for free.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Should have made myself a little clearer. When I said 3D and DivX do not get along I was referring to interlaced 3D. For me, the difference between an interlaced 3D video clip encoded in DivX and one encoded at the same bps in Xvid is significant. Maybe it's because I use the free DivX codec and not the Pro one?! I'm no expert! Is Xvid illegal for private use?

ChrisC
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 5:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

> Is Xvid illegal for private use?

I'm not an expert in legal issues, but I think the answer yes. Maybe you can find out more here: http://www.mpegla.com. Anyway, nobody will care if you don't sell CDs which include the codec.
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clyde

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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I was backtracking on this thread and read that they were using a Christie Cp2000 along with Nuvision shutters.
Does this meanthe Cp2000 does 120hz or better output syncing?
like their Mirage range? as there is no info on this on the projector comparison chart on christie's site.

Secondly at Showest they used the Quvis Acuity server, how does this actually interface with the CP2000 to do active stereo.
The player software pagefips alternate images from dual streams of HD video?

Regards
Clyde
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Check this thread, especially towards the end:

http://www.stereo3d.com/discus/messages/3179/3253.html?1114113305
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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ray Zone has a new piece about digital 3D cinema:

http://www.worldenteractive.com/threshold.htm
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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

very good news!!! thanks Ray Zone....but where and when can we see this new ,In-Three, 3d ,for ourselves?????? any demos comming soon????? please let us know!!!
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Clyde

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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

April 26, 2005

Crest widens large-screen 3-D market

Large-format movie screens could benefit from a new 3-D digital mastering service poised to debut this week. The new digital postproduction service devised by Crest National, a Hollywood-based digital media facility, remasters original 3-D 70mm film prints so they can be projected in 3-D but from a single digital cinema projector. Crest is unveiling its 3-D D-Cinema Mastering service with a screening of "Bugs!" at the Large Format Cinema Assn. conference Thursday at the Universal City Hilton. The screening represents the first time a native 70mm 3-D film will be shown in 3-D on a digital projector in 2K resolution. (Sheigh Crabtree) FULL STORY >>>

--regards Clyde
More on digital 3d going mainstream..
..can only be a good thing..
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clyde

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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Above taken from Hollywood Reporter.
_clyde
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Joseph L. Kleiman

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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 8:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The system used at the LFCA demonstration was identical to the one used at ShoWest. The only differences were the size of the screen and the sound system. The ShoWest event used Dolby, while the LFCA one used DTS. The clips for the LFCA presentation, which included complete digital prints of "Pirates 4D" and "Bugs!3D" were provided by Simex-Iwerks.
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Joseph L. Kleiman

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Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Disney's Chicken Little to Be 1st Digital 3D Hollywood Movie

http://www.worldenteractive.com/chicken.htm
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 3:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

wow!!!that is great news.....but when will we get to see the first 3d conversion of one of the mega box office hits??????????

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