| Author | Message | ||
     Help Rating: |
Stay away from 3001ad and Timmersion Head Mounted Display www.3001ad.com www.trimmersion.com The product doesn't even exist!! They took my money 2 months ago on an order and never sent anything nor will they refund my money. I found out they only had a prototype for the E3 show and it didn't compare well to the z800 Not sure what to do. | ||
| AlbusD Rating: N/A |
What do you mean , they took your money ?- the website indicates they are accepting pre-orders only and clearly states they do not expect availability until the fourth quarter. Are you claiming they already charged your credit? Two months ago? And what do you mean they refuse to refund your money? | ||
| MMartin Rating: N/A |
I wouldn't buy until a reputable site or magazine reviews it. It could be a scam to sucker in money. | ||
| anony Rating: N/A |
just call your credit card company and charge them back | ||
| Anon Rating: N/A |
If they can really pull it off, this will be an awesome product. A wireless HMD with a tracker is just too cool!! | ||
| Jorge Rating: N/A |
If it is wireless, the resolution will be too poor. I dont think is possible to send wireless video at decent resolution and framerate. Perhaps a 640 x 480 max. | ||
| Andreas Schulz Rating: N/A |
Jorge, you're optimistic.. according to Tom's Hardware, it's 320x240, with 35" at 7ft virtual size, i.e. approx. 23 deg diagonal FOV.. | ||
| Andreas Schulz Rating: N/A |
P.S.: See for yourself : http://www.trimersion.com/news.cfm | ||
| Jorge Rating: N/A |
Then is a dead product before born. Is a two steps back technology, and not only in the resolution point. And at that price.... I understand people complain about z800's real value at 900$, but this 500$ is just like burn them. I hope "help" can get his money back, even if 3001ad says him they are going to ship this unit tomorrow. | ||
| Anon Rating: N/A |
I still think its a step in the right direction. | ||
| AlbusD Rating: N/A |
I find it odd that Help claims the company charged his credit card when the site clearly states they are accepting pre-orders only , and would not be shipping for months after he placed his order. I find it odd that after starting an incendiary thread like this , that he has not replied and clarified the events. I am forwarding his post to the people at 3001AD , llc. and asking them to clarify. | ||
| BigD Rating: N/A |
3001ad is pretty much going out of business. There unit they showed at e3 was using Kopin displays and paled in comparison to the z800. The Trimmersion will never be released. | ||
| anony Rating: N/A |
I saw the model at E3 also and it was horrendous. | ||
| Another anon Rating: N/A |
They had several units at E3, I tried one and it wasn't bad, it wasn't easy to put on, but it was comfortable once it was on (it didn't put all the weight on my forhead like other HMDs). The only down side I would say is the video quality wasn't great, I wish I could take the displays from z800 and put them in a 3001ad helmet. | ||
| Sam Rating: N/A |
You can, they sell the helmet as an actual kid's toy at walmart! | ||
| water1 Rating: N/A |
Is that true Sam ? I didn't know that, sounds cool. What is the name of the toy so I can look for it. | ||
| CyberWorld, Inc. Rating: N/A |
water1 it is under a few different names: Power Rangers Virtual Reality Headset Quest VR Head set etc. I'm curious how good the shell would be for conversions? Here is a link to one listed on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6005186066&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Best Regards, Stewart Muirhead CyberWorld, inc. | ||
| water1 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the help on the info. Stewart. | ||
| Adamg Rating: N/A |
QuestVR headset pwns! | ||
| 3001ad Rating: N/A |
what happen to 3001ad web site,, they done for good?? | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
So their using the QuestVR shell... Who cares. | ||
| carly madison Rating: N/A |
What is up with the website? Has anyone tried to call 3001 ad? They have a vr store in Six Flags over Texas and California. It is hard to believe they are out of business just like that. | ||
| cutlass Rating: N/A |
Website might be down. Can't get it either. Trimersion is for sale at this site, but check out the price...higher than expected...more than $900... http://extremetoysforboys.com/index.php3/item/item/269.html | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Looks good to me! This is a have to have! It also has a built in tracking unit! | ||
| ahh Rating: N/A |
they got to be using the v900 if it has 922,000 pixels and hooks to an nsct | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
it says out of stock, which probably means they never had any stock. | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
What is an nsct? I called and they have stock. | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
3001ad is out of money. They haven't been paying their employees who obviously left. Their current management is very sketchy. Company Management Jimmy L. Barker, President and Marc Rifkin, Senior Account Executive. Government Actions On July 8, 1999, case 990078CD, the State of Indiana, Office of the Secretary of State Securities Division filed a Finding of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Final Order against Dibney Corporation, 3001 AD Partners and Bill Ward, respondents. Respondents are to permanently cease and desist from transacting business in Indiana as broker-dealers and or agents. Respondents shall pay a civil penalty of $30,000 payable within thirty days after entry of this order granting all just and proper relief. On September 7, 1999, case 990809, the Pennsylvania Securities Commission issued a cease and desist order against respondents Dibney Corporation, 3001 AD Partners, 3001 AD LLC, and Jimmy L. Barker for violations of the Pennsylvania Securities Act of 1972, sections 102, 201, 301, and 606(c). Respondents are ordered to cease and desist from offering or selling the Partnership Interests and Memberships in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
That was all in 1999, way back when! How about a little updated information! | ||
| AlbusD Rating: N/A |
According to someone on the yahoo! message board (an Z800 stockholder - so not an unbiased observer) the company's phones in Fl and NC have been disonnected and their websites taken down. for whatever it's worth. | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Z800 stockholders run rampid on this and other boards as anons just to bash other HMD company products. What a hell of a marketing technique! | ||
| Jaycos conscience Rating: N/A |
Hay Jayco boy. Got a working phone number for 3001AD? How's a bout a website then? I think it's time to stop touting this thing until we establsih if the company exists or not. What say you? | ||
| Ku Rating: N/A |
I used to talk to Bob L. He was in charge of Virtual relations and new Idea's. Last month in his e-mail he said he was waiting for money to come in the doors.. I hope they didn't lose thier shirts advertising the Trimersion HMD.. Thats too bad Because I thought they were doing Ok. Ku | ||
| ben Rating: N/A |
Ku they were never doing ok. Their Trimmersion was a POS and they ripped off a lot of people | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
ben; Gee I wonder if you work for e-magin, just a wild guess. I know you will come back and say you don't so let me thank you now for infinite knowledge. | ||
| Ben Rating: N/A |
Jayco NO I do not work for eMagin. Take your head out of your ass and take into consideration all of the 3001ad sites are down and their phones are disconnected. Maybe you work for eMagin or wish they would hire you. LOL You probably worked for the defunct 3001ad. HAHAHA | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
Just a guess, but there's still 358,000 people without power in Palm Beach County, FL. And if you follow a tracert to their websites, it looks like they're hosted at the end of a BellSouth DSL or T1 line (currently fading into the ether of Miami), probably along with their VOIP. Before you put the (inevitable) last nail in their coffins, let's wait till the lights come back on. | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
These are old article. Doesn't look good, but before we write off 3000AD and the Trimersion, let's wait for some official news. Last link is their VR fishing game. http://64.146.17.242/stories/123101/sta_1231010052.asp http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2001/12/31/daily6.html http://iaapaorlando.com/planner2004/pldetail.wcs?cardnum=901644 http://gadgets.luxist.com/entry/1234000420034379/ | ||
| cutlass Rating: N/A |
anon...good point on power outage in Fla...although phones are off too and phones don't need elec co power to work...well, telephone wires could be cut...too soon to draw any conclusions | ||
| 3001 no go Rating: N/A |
More Vaporware from hustlers. Anyone who gives them money is a fool! | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Ben a little too much anger there my friend. You need to have your company ===e-magin=== give you a little time off. I say anon and cutlass have the right idea and it really is too soon to write them off. | ||
| Mr_N Rating: N/A |
If it were a phone outage you would just get ringing and no answer not a "this number has been disconnected or no longer is in service" message. BTW, they have a Raleigh, North Carolina office for 3001AD and BetaZone and that number mysteriously is no longer in service as well. Me thinks they took the loot, the PC's and pencils and ran, could be wrong but it sure does smell that way. | ||
| Bobby Chin Rating: N/A |
They are offically out of business. I hope everyone on this site got their money back?? | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Bobby; Prove this. | ||
| Jaycos Mom Rating: N/A |
Jayco you prove it that they still exist. Now get to bed it is past your bed time. Stop trying to play games. Why not invest some money in them and let us know how it goes. LOL | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
Their websites are now up and running... | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
Start Investing! LOL Those guys are banned from trying to sell securities or partnerships in at least 3 States. | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Check out the MSNBC review http://www.3001ad.com/ | ||
| Jayco Daddy Rating: N/A |
That is the POS they showed at E3. It is kopin displays in a kiddie vr shell. It does not exist for retail. Please invest in them!! LOL | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
It shows they have a new shell design, looks pretty slick. May buy one Friday. At $595.00 the price is right! | ||
| water1 Rating: N/A |
Has it been released yet? When are they going to be shipping them? | ||
| Jimmy Rating: N/A |
Jayco buy two so you and your buddy can head butt each other with them on which all they will be good for! LOL No they have not been released. | ||
| Ben Robbins Rating: N/A |
They do not even have any specs listed or any real product shots. Some animations and BS hype. aka vaporware | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
I can see that there is one e-magin freak here acting as many people. No I am not going to buy a Z800! | ||
| Jayco wishes he could afford a Z800 Rating: N/A |
At least the z800 exists! LOL | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
It pisses me off that a manufacturer who is trying to sell their HMD as the next best thing doesn't have any specs listed!!! | ||
| anon Rating: N/A |
Nor do they have any "real" pictures. Just diagrams and animations. LOL | ||
| water1 Rating: N/A |
What are the specs? If Anyone knows please post them. | ||
| AdamG Rating: N/A |
I heard its comparable to the victormaxx stuntmaster! ;p | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Here are the specs: http://extremetoysforboys.com/index.php3/item/item/Trimersion%20-%20Head%20Mounted%20Display%20%28HMD%29%20with%20Head%20Tracking.html | ||
| water1 Rating: N/A |
That like says "Number of pixels - 922 thousand per eye" Wouldn't that make it 640*480 Rez.? | ||
| I wonder who Jayco is? Rating: N/A |
Hey Jayco do you work for 3001 or extremetoys? You seem to like the unit so much yet you don't even own one because it isn't even on the market! LOL You seem to bash emagin and the z800 here and under different names. Hmmmm.... At least the z800 exisits and emagin isn't run by a bunch of crooks like 3001 is. | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
I like the look and specs of the 3001 product and do not work for either. I have not bashed anyone and all I see is you continuing to start shit with me. You and your Z800 need to go away. | ||
| KuDawg Rating: N/A |
PEOPLE REALLY!!!!! DON"T CARE WHO U ARE"Z THIS is NOT a Fill with UR Bullshit site..ENOUGH This is STEREO3D.com if anyone is interested.. Drop it,don't care ,move on. I see this question to what happen to thier web site was blown way out.. Jayco stop responding and maybe it will END.. This should be the last post in here, you people are really killing this site.. KuDawg | ||
| Armand stop Rating: N/A |
KuDawg just ignore Armand Bastien (the z800 basher). He has a social problem apparantly and he is not allowed to resell their product so this is what he does. Quite sad actually. | ||
| Armand Rating: N/A |
The only person I know who would bring me into this fight is Stewart at Cyberworld. Stewart you are an ass. I have nothing to do with this. Oh and for your information we are an Authorized Disributor of the Z800. Call E-Magin yourself and ask. | ||
| Stop Armand Rating: N/A |
Sad eh Kudawg. Pathetic actually. You a socialpath Armand! | ||
| Tired Rating: N/A |
Ok Stewie we hear ya. | ||
| Jayco Rating: N/A |
Just spoke to 3001Ad and they said mid december! http://www.3001ad.com/contact.cfm | ||
| Roflmao! Rating: N/A |
roflmao! | ||
| Steve Rating: N/A |
3001ad has been saying "next month" for the last 4 months. It won't be out anytime soon at least anything of quality. | ||
| Ku Rating: N/A |
Jaco talked about liking the spec's. I don't see why anyone would buy something else other then the Z800. This is IF your looking to buy an HMD, there's nothing that offers the FOV with tracking in the price range! Yeah $499 is an OK price but with a 30fov and 640x480x3 why would you think saving $400 would make that any better? I don't think I would want to play any Console system on an HMD right now. IF the trim glasses come out hopefully they do well for them. Were gonna have to wait another 5 years I'd say before we can see something worth it, and in our price range. I used to be a serious gamer but now it seems that the pasion is gone alittle bit, I haven't even fired up the glasses in awhile just because It's not awesome or really differant. I need something that is WOW!! What really gets me angry is the stupid short cables emagine sent with these glasses. Come on, I have to velcro the box to the side of my Case, just kiddin but its close. Hopefully in the 5 years to come someone makes an HMD wireless... Totally, but then it will be 1024x768 and people will be unhappy because now they are used to 2400x1600. Ok im tired, I'll post in 5 years !! LOL Ku | ||
| AdamG Rating: N/A |
I played an xbox 360 today.. that's a console I'd want to use an HMD with. | ||
| bob ladrach (Ladrach) New member Username: Ladrach Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2006 Rating: N/A |
It's always nice to find a link that googles "stay away from Trimersion and 3001 AD". No trial, no rebuttal just BAM! If you have an issue with Trimersion and 3001 AD, the best thing to do is to email us. You can reach me at bobl@3001ad.com for any concerns/questions. In the thread I know it is taking longer to get this product out than we would like. I want to make it right. As far as experience, I can tell you I've been building displays and VR systems since 1992. I know that when you get your hands on a Trimerison you will be impressed. If you want to try one now, please come to Delray Beach, FL and I will personally do a demo for you. We will be on the market as soon as possible and the specs/compatibility/issues will be worked out. It will be one of the most unique and impressive game accessories you've ever played with. Bob Ladrach President 3001 AD | ||
| Kevin Mellott (Mellott124) New member Username: Mellott124 Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Bob, You need to put some sort of specs, preliminary or not, on your webpage so that we know what kind of device you have. I'm a strong believer in the type of FPS device your marketing but your webpage is mostly marketing hype. Kevin | ||
| Rafael Vuijk (Darkfader) New member Username: Darkfader Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006  Rating: N/A |
"The new units have been completely redesigned from scratch." Does that mean it's finally stereo 3D? It does have two displays, right? What about resolution? 640x480 is minimum I'd say. Is it Wii compatible already? Can there be a cheaper non-wired version and without gun? (Message edited by darkfader on August 30, 2006) | ||
| Brian Scott Gerrard (Briangerrard) New member Username: Briangerrard Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2007 Rating: N/A |
I just ordered the headset from their website, and haven't received a receipt or anything in email. I've sent a few emails and haven't heard anything. I am currently deployed to southeast asia and my roommate hasn't seen any package come in either. I hope its not a scam, if its not i'll repost on here. I am looking forward to coming home from this deployment to play w/my new toy. Brian | ||
| Brian Scott Gerrard (Briangerrard) New member Username: Briangerrard Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2007 Rating: N/A |
Its been nearly three weeks. I received one reply, from Bob Ladroch. They did charge my credit card and it says its availalbe on their website. He said he would have it out two weeks ago within a week. I didn't receive anything. I sent another email two days ago, and I haven't received a notification of shipment or anything else. They charged my credit card $611.65 for the headset. I'm currently deployed now, and my roommate says that nothing is showing up in the mail. I've sent multiple emails since and no response. If I don't get a response soon, i'm filing complaints with every government organization as I can, and put all the facts about this on this messageboard. Thanks, Brian ~B | ||
| Brian Scott Gerrard (Briangerrard) New member Username: Briangerrard Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2007 Rating: N/A |
I just got it in the mail! I guess they were swamped with orders or something or under new management, but after a few emails it showed up. I had to drive to Sacramento to pick it up. Mr Ladroch was so cool about it he actually sent me two units for the price of one. It is a pretty fun toy indeed. The headtracker works well, i think VR still has a long way to go to catch up w/ the Lawnmower Man and other movies though. Until games are written to match specific VR Hardware it will always be kind of a pain configuring for games. For example in First Person Shooters, you aim your gun with your head. If games were written to incorporate the headtracking for looking, and a tracker built into a gun to work independantly from that for aiming, it would make that a little more immersive and easier to play. The Trimersion gun is more of a controller, of which you can make adjustments with the control sticks for aiming, although it can be kind of difficult sometimes. Don't expect to beat Halo or any FPS on the Hard setting, response time is way faster with a controller, but try an easy setting and just have fun with it. Trimersion certainly did a good job with their product and it is really fun and an interesting experience. Once the game developers and the hardware developers merge their two technologies, this is going to change gaming forever. I forsee Nintendo doing this because they've already started some sort of motion tracking with the Nintendo Wii. I'm funna post some videos on youtube of me and my friends with it, its hilarious! I still haven't tried the headset with the PC yet, but i'll post my experience with it on here. You have to have TV out on your video card to do this. If you want to spend the 600 bucks and have a few kicks with you and your friends i would say go for it. It is a good fun product and the technology is certainly getting there. ~B | ||
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