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Dave Foster

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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 3:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

How can I get the emagin z800 to be able to watch field sequential 3D DVDs on a PC? Is there any software or drivers to get this to work?
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Mark S

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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 7:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Stereoscopic Player will do it.

http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.shtml
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Charles

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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Peter Wimmer's Stereoscopic Player will show page-flipped 3-D with either the nVidia consumer 3D driver (full-screen only) or with nVidia's OpenGL Stereo driver (full-screen and windowed stereoscopic views). The OpenGL driver is included with nVidia's ForceWare driver, but won't activate unless it senses a Quadro-capable graphics card.
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Ashon

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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 6:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

So has anyone with a z800 tested this to see if the dvds play well?
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Charles

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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have tested 3-D DVDs (interlaced and Sensio format) with the z800 and Peter Wimmer's player, and they playback perfectly well.

When the z800's motion detection option is turned off and your system is configured for a single monitor display, the z800 functions as a clone of your actual monitor and shows exactly the same image. So any program that displays properly on your monitor can be viewed through the z800.
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Ashon

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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 7:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Charles which DVDs look better the Sensio or Field Sequential?
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Charles

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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ashon --
In theory, the progressive Sensio method should look better. In practice, however, there's no visible difference during playback between interlaced vs. Sensio versions of the same DVD movie. Remember that both formats are limited to the same low 1/2 NTSC resolution. (Interlaced frames are horizontally compressed, Sensio frames are vertically compressed.)

So in my opinion there's no reason to spend the extra $$ for the Sensio version if the interlaced version is available.
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Ashon

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Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 11:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Charles after you install and run the Stereoscopic Player did you require " a third party decoder for 3D-DVD playback. " To play these DVDs? If so which ones did you use?
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Charles

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Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 12:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Third party decoders for DVD video and audio are required. The free decoders which Peter Wimmer links to on his website work well for commercial DVDs and most DVD-R discs.

I personally use the old PowerDVD version 4.0 decoders, because the PowerDVD decoders are more robust and can successfully play some non-standard DVD-Rs that will lock up or won't play audio with the free decoders.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The recommended decoders are these: http://www.3dtv.at/Products/Player/DVDPlayback_en.shtml

The GPL MPEG Decoder doesn't play copy-protected discs, however. But you can email me and I'll send you a patch...

PowerDVDs decoder work great for NTSC discs but won't work for PAL discs.
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Ashon

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Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

To view interlaced...So once I am running the Stereo3D player. (I am using an nvidia non quadro card)
Do I just choose the Nvidia stereo driver from the Viewing list? (I am running the nvidia stereo driver on my PC)

Any other tips or basic process to get it to work with interlaced dvds and the stereoscopic player?
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Ashon

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Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Also is there any difference while running a quadro card?
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Charles

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Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Select the nVidia stereo driver when you install the Stereoscopic Player. It will remain the default driver until you change the setting. The player menus for configuring video input and output are pretty much self-explanatory, once you install the program and look it over.

A Quadro card uses nVidia's professional OpenGL Stereo driver instead of nVidia's consumer stereo driver. The OpenGL driver will display the stereoscopic image in either full-screen mode or in a window at various sizes, whereas the consumer driver will display 3-D only in full-screen.
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Ashon

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Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Which 3D DVDs has anyone tested with the z800 and this method? Which ones looked good and which didn't?
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dvdbunny

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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

wow 3d movies on a z800, how would this work
would you actually see depth in the movies and would the image pop out of the screen?
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Charles

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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

ANY program (game or DVD player) that will display stereoscopic 3-D on your monitor using the nVidia consumer stereo driver or the nVidia professional openGL stereo driver will show the same stereoscopic image in the z800. So ALL stereoscopic DVDs that will play in Peter Wimmer's Stereoscopic Player can be used with the z800.

All genuine commercial 3-D DVDs (the IMAX series, rhe Razor3d series, "The Creeps," etc.) will play in the Stereoscopic Player using the third-party GPL MPEG decoder recommended on the www.3dtv.at website. Some of the "unofficial" DVD-R conversions of old theatrical movies being sold on eBay require a more robust MPEG decoder (such as PowerDVD) with the Stereoscopic Player for proper playback.

Image quality is very good on the commercial DVDs, but varies widely with the DVD-R conversions. Many Razor3d DVDs are computer-generated fake 3-D (which in my opinion looks terrible), and the Razor3d website doesn't say which movies are true 3-D. (Hint: If a theatrical movie wasn't originally filmed in true 3-D, its DVD isn't true 3-D either.)
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CyberWorld, Inc.

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Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 1:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The movies which I know that are in true 3D (not conversion or low end movies filmed with a Nuview or cheap 3D camera):

The Real Deal 3D DVDs most of which we have tested with the z800:
-Encounters in the 3rd Dimension
-Haunted Castle
-Alien Adventure
-SOS Planet
-Ultimate G
-Santa Vs Snowman
-Misadventure 3D
-Erotek Dimensions XXX
-Spykids 3D DVD
-CGI Theme Park
-The Creeps

Sensio Bugs is good too

Pretty much everything else is very low and does not look good.

Best Regards,

Stewart Muirhead
CyberWorld, Inc
http://www.cwonline.com
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CW

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Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 1:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I also forgot

Boudoir Babe XXX Sensio has good 3D as well

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