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Anonymous

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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2001 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Could anyone PLEASE tell me the best/cheapest hardware and software that I can buy to view proteins, DNA, amino acids etc.

Please give me the complete list of hardware and software that I need to buy.
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Eric Lindstrom

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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2001 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

There's a lot of software out there for viewing models of molecules with shutterglasses. Some of it is even free. There are too many to list, but the following link goes to a good site to begin your search:

http://www.okanagan.bc.ca/chem/molecule/molecule.html

As for your shutterglasses, I would suggest shopping around. Compatibility may be an issue, depending on what software you will be using. You also want to make sure your monitor has a refresh rate of at least 100Hz, the higher the refresh rate, the better!

Hope this helps,

Eric L.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Check the software list as http://www.stereographics.com/

The actual hardware from StereoGraphics is rather expensive, but can be substituted by some cheaper consumer glasses.

Christoph
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Michal Husak

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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Best freware:

VMD
MolMol
SwisProtViewer
WebLabViewerLite (www.msi.com)
RasMol

Best comercial:

WebLabViewerPro

Both MolMol VMD and WebLabViewer have support
for OpenGL stereoscopic visualisation ...

The mentioned software is for PC. MolMol and VMD is availabe for SGI and Linux.

Colud you be a more specific, what you need to visualise ?
Protein, small molecules, NMR parameters, Quantum Mechanic parameters ... each software is optimal for different task ...

I have e.g. written a code for visualisation
small molecules and its electon densities from
X-ray data ....
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Michael,

I've added these programs to the applications chart at http://www.stereo3d.com/applications.htm

Maybe you can check for errors? Give me some links?

Thank you

Christoph
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Michal Husak

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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Good idea

Stereoscopy is supported in folowing
molacular visualisation software:
(All is freeware and even the WebLabViewerPro
is free for 1 month evluation).

VMD
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/

MolMol
http://www.mol.biol.ethz.ch/wuthrich/software/molmol/

Download of the WebLabViewerPro and WebLabViwerLite
http://www.msi.com/download/index.html

All the software use the OpenGL stereoscopy,
it means that you need NT and grpahic card
witch suppots it or SciTech GLdirect instaled
(Or SGI for IRIX version of MolMol and VMD)

My own software for molecular visualisation
of crystalographic data (MarchingCubeELD).
It is HW independent becouse it can work in interlaced mode:
http://mysak.umbr.cas.cz/~husakm/Public/MarchingCubeELD/MarchingCubeELD.htm
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I want to view, for example, a molecule of lysine.
Or much larger and complex amino acids enzymes.

Also, which is a good 100Hz monitor, I want to buy a Dell Ultrascan 17" trinitron? Is it 100hz?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Okay, lets say YOU want to view molecules. Rotate them in free space etc.
Give me your exact specifications, where to buy and prices. I do not have enough time to search and understand the many web sites out there.

I have Win 2000/win 98,

Thanks for the help :-)
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Michal Husak

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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 11:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The main question is, do you want to see molecules
in stereo ? If you want to have a profesional
system with does not crash, the key is NT 4
and some of the graphic card listed on
www.stereographics.com. I personaly suggest
Oxygen GVX1 witch I use in my work ...
If a monoscopic view is O.K. you can use almost
any HW and you shuld try the WebLabViewerLitte
http://www.msi.com/download/index.html

P.S. if you do not have time to search the suggested WWW, I do not have time to write
an expert report for you
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

My sincere apologies Michal Husak.

I am really sorry for offending you or anybody else.

It is just that I do not know much about 3D.

I have spent a lot of time reading the information on the web sites.

However, I am scared that I may buy something that is incompatible with my graphics card, or incompatible with Win2000 etc.
I really cannot afford to make that mistake.

That is why I wanted information about specific products to buy.

I want to view molecules in stereo and I will buy either WinNT or Win2000. I have a Matrox G450 card. Or I could buy a nVidia Geforce II GTS.

I want to buy a complete package for $150-$200.
Thanks
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Michal Husak

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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

It is O.K. None of the graphic card witch you
suggest is suitable for stereoscopic molecular visualisation. Buy Oxygen GVX1 or forget about fast graphic and stereoscopy. GVX1 have a mathematci geometry cooprocesor, it is slow for games but fast for typical task conected with
randering of molecules. OxygenGVX1 works
excelent with all mentioned software under NT.
You shuld contact 3D Labs and ask about stereoscopic support under Win2000. It will
probably work, but I did not test it ...
If you are short of money, you can buy Oxygen VX1,
but you will be forced to buy some game shuterglasses witch can sync to the monitor signal, becouse this graphic card does not have the VESA min-DIN-3 connector for profesional
glasses ...
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chris

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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Greetings

reagarding VMD and such. The eye3d Premium has been extremely successful in the VMD arena. In fact we supplied the Eye3d Premium to 14 Universities, including the University of Illinois the developer of VMD.

To see the specs got to http://www.demensional.com

Thank you

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