| Author | Message | ||
     Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Is it possible to create with this program field sequential 3-d that could be played on your tv? I tried burning what i thought to be 3d for shutter glasses and the dvd doesn't produce seem to sync. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
It'll only make an avi I've used mjpeg codec or DV codec or Huffyuv with it to make interlaced avi video You then need to use some mpeg2 conversion software such as Ulead Mediastudio or canopus procoder to make your mpeg2 file then another software package to burn your DVD. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Could you email me please as I have done all those steps and things still don't come out right? Zombie6422@hotmail.com | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
If you want NTSC DVD video you must resize your video to 720x480 in Stereoscopic Movie Maker you must then convert it to NTSC Mpeg2 then burn it as a NTSC DVD. You are probably resizing your video in conversion thus losing the stereo effect. you can't change the video size during conversion | ||
| Ice9x Rating: N/A |
Does anyone know of any alternitaves to stereomoviemaker with the same funcitionallity? | ||
| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) New member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
This thread sorta relates to one of my problems...if anyone is still reading this: I have interlaced AVI files on the computer (generated using Stereo Movie Maker). I am trying to encode these onto a DVD while retaining the 3D interlaced format. I am using Nero Ultra Edition 7's "make a movie" feature to mate up the AVIs with corresponding audio files. I then try to put the DVD together (adding menus, etc.) but the resulting video is flat,apparently using only the right-eye view. The AVI resolution matches the rendering resolution (480 x 720), so I am not sure if there is a setting I should change in Nero or if I should use the Nero Digital Video feature (have yet to learn this software!), or something totally different to change the .avi files to DVD-compliant mpeg. I enabled the Nero SmartEncoding feature, because the instructions say it will NOT re-encode the video if it is compliant (I guess the "if it is complaint" is the problem here?). Do I need to convert the avi to dvd-complain mpeg first (I am guessing the answer is yes)? Can I do this with the Nero 7 software? Or is there a free program or some other software I can use instead (i.e., is the Ulead thing free?)? Any help greatly appreciated! Finally, while encoding the DVD with Nero, will the preview window show the two interlaced views or does it smooth them over, even though the DVD might be interlaced 3D? | ||
| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Follow-up: problem resolved; using Digital Media Converter to take the .avi files and convert them to mpeg-2 files, which, when manipulated by Nero 7, don't get re-encoded (as long as Nero SmartEncoding is enabled). | ||
| Scott Warren (Scott_warren) New member Username: Scott_warren Post Number: 13 Registered: 8-2006 Rating: N/A |
Aaah... (referring both to this and your other post) You didn't say "converting to MPEG" anywhere. Now, I know... Whether first time converting to MPEG from AVI, or RE-converting from non-compliant MPEG, if your original is interlaced and you DON'T set up your encode settings correctly, it can often DEINTERLACE the encode. It can do this in a number of ways: 1. drop a field and duplicate the other field 2. blend the 2 fields 3. a combination of the 2, depending upon the motion/disparity between the fields and other fields/frames 4. other, more complicated variations of these All of these would wreak havoc on a field-sequential show. It could... 1. lose the 3d completely -->2. always have more/much ghosting<-- 3. alternate these 2 and look "stuttering" etc... If your ultimate goal is field-sequential 3d DVD, make sure you're encoding as little as possible, and that your interlacing is maintained throughout. AND use the highest possible quality encoder. Sorry, but most in the industry consider Nero to be a very good burning engine, but a **POOR** MPEG encoding one. Email me if you have more questions. scw@cornucopiadm.com Scott (Message edited by Scott_warren on February 05, 2007) | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 26 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Again: Yes, my ultimate goal is a field-sequential 3D DVD. I am encoding as little as possible, starting with mpeg video ripped from a DVD, converted to .avi via stereo movie maker, which breaks the segments up into smaller .avi files, which then have to be strung back together (yes, keeping field order, resolutions consistent (720 x 480, ntsc)), etc., saved again as a complete .avi file, THEN converted to back to mpeg-2 via Digital Media Converter, THEN burned to a DVD with Nero (which won't re-encode my video since DMC made it DVD compliant--the Nero Smart Encoding takes over and just transfers the mpeg as-is). Anyway, I am going the long route of redering some video clips with various settings. Overall, my video turns out okay and in 3D, but as I mentioned earlier, I do have a friend who can't see my DVDs in 3D, even though others he has bought work fine, and although it COULD be my imagination, it seems like the ghosting is worse on stuff I have put through the meatgrinder described above! Thanks for your help! (Message edited by rrrrob on February 05, 2007) (Message edited by rrrrob on February 05, 2007) | ||
| Scott Warren (Scott_warren) New member Username: Scott_warren Post Number: 14 Registered: 8-2006 Rating: N/A |
Well, you still might be encoding at least 3 or 4 times yourself... 1. DVDMPEG --> AVI (via SMM) 2. AVI --> larger AVI (via ???) 3. AVI --> MPEG (via DMC) You don't say which codec you're using for the AVIs, you don't say which app you're using to combine the AVIs, and you don't give settings for DMC. Note: DMC is ALSO not considered very good at encoding. MPEG encoders that I would consider good are: Mainconcept, TMPGEnc, CCE, Canopus Procoder, a few others (some free/shareware). If one of your apps is doing a non-linear blend of the fields, it might be enough to maintain the sense of 3d for you, but not enough for others. There are a couple of ways to improve your workflow to give higher quality output: 1. Use a better MPEG encoder 2. Use converter/editor apps where you can completely control the interaction of the interlaced fields. You could also have additional complications WRT color space reduction: DVD MPEG is 4:2:0 and when you convert to AVI, you may not be blending the luminance of the 2 fields, but you could very well be blending the chrominance, resulting in reduced quality throughout. This will be compounded on the other end, as well. Email me and give me a more detailed breakdown of your workflow, and I could help you with the weak spots... Or check out http://www.videohelp.com, where there's quite a number of good users, guides and tools to navigate through this problem. I am a frequent contributer there. Note, however, that most of those there aren't familiar with the specific requirements of 3d. Hope that helps... Scott | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 27 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Update: I took Digital Media Creator out of the equation here. However, the ghosting seems to stay. I have reduced the parallax separation on the video I was editing (digitally generated credits that zoom out of the screen), and that does help quite a bit, but can still see two images when only one eye is open (second image is VERY faint, but still there). Not sure that it's my viewing equipment, as I have different results with different DVDs (some look pretty close to perfect as far as ghosting). I disabled the interleave option in the video propoerties, and that didn't seem to have any effect either. I am using Video Factory 1.0, which is ANCIENT and is probably the source of my problems, so I am going to try Vegas Video to see if that helps. One last thing I have started to notice, and I hope the new video-editing software will help: very faint vertical lines in the resulting DVD image...anyone ever come across this and know what caused it? Thanks again for your help! (Message edited by rrrrob on February 06, 2007) | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 38 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
This is the process I use now: 1.) DVD mpeg->multiple .avi chunks via SMM 2.) string .avi chunks together via Vegas Movie Studio (adjustments made here/deinterlace mode) 3.) Feed both L and R complete .avis into SMM 4.) Put resulting stereo .avi file into Vegas Video (interlaced mode) and create DVD-compliant mpeg. 5.) Assemble/author DVD in Nero. This is the shortest method I can think of...wish all the encoding wasn't there, but it does seem to work now. | ||
| Scott Warren (Scott_warren) New member Username: Scott_warren Post Number: 17 Registered: 8-2006 Rating: N/A |
Haven't used SMM to convert much recently (using other apps), so I'm a little rusty, but WHY does your output come in chunks? This shouldn't be standard, although I guess it can depend on what OS and Harddrive Filesystem you've got going (e.g.: filesize limitations). What makes me wonder about this is the fact that you don't seem to have filesize problems the 2nd time around... If I understand you correctly, your 1st time through SMM is just to ???convert the ripped DVD to AVI??? If so, there are MUCH better apps to do that, like VirtualDub (or one of it's cousins: VirtualdubMod, or VirtualdubMPEG2). I know you can get single HUGE files with only 1 generation down by going in this direction. Just a thought. Hope that helps. Let me know... Scott | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 39 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Stereo movie maker breaks files up automatically and numbers the filenames sequentially. I don't think there is a way to modify that setting. But I am not using SMM as just a converter to .avi format--It's usually the first step in the projects I have been working on lately where I have to separate L/R video, etc. I like the virtual dub idea when I don't need SMM beforehand, though. Will give that a try...Haven't used virtual dub much at all yet. | ||
| axel bernhardt (Dreid) New member Username: Dreid Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2006 Rating: N/A |
How can I add a new encoder to the Stereo Movie Maker? If I don`t compress the video (duration < 10 min.), the file is to big to handle it with any other tool to burn a dvd. Thank you for your help! | ||
| Scott Warren (Scott_warren) New member Username: Scott_warren Post Number: 18 Registered: 8-2006 Rating: N/A |
Ok, I think I know a little more about what's going on here now, which should resolve these issues... As quoted from the SMM help file: "StereoMovie Maker AVI files normally have a size-limit of 2Gb but AVISynth can be used to open them and pass-on the frames to SMM. The Panasonic VFW DV driver is not limited to 2Gb files." This tell me much. SMM itself uses the VFW api and only recognizes the old AVI format (1.0) natively. This had a MAX filesize of 2GB. The (Matrox) OpenDML spec expands the AVI format (now called 2.0) to allow nearly unlimited size. If SMM doesn't support OpenDML, then output files will HAVE to be segmented AVI 1.0 format, unless a workaround can be thought of. One workaround is to use a different compressor (certainly not "uncompressed") to minimize the size (and, therefore, # of segments). This must of course be a VFW-type codec. Go to the [TOOLS] section of Videohelp.com ( http://www.videohelp.com ) to see lists of VFW-type codecs, as well as Directshow and other type codecs. Pre-installing them will allow them to be shown in the list of avialable output codecs (last dialog in the [SAVE] function). Besides the Panasonic DV one mentioned in the help file, there is the Cedocida DV one, the HuffYUV and Lagarith lossless codecs, and many others. Obviously, this filesize limitation is only a bottleneck on saving/exporting, as the helpfile shows how to easily get around this bottleneck via installation and frameserving of AVISynth (another indispensable utility). Note: this limitation isn't related to the limitation of the FAT/FAT32 filesystems (and the NON-limitation of the NTFS filesystem), which should also be taken into consideration. Axel, add a new encoder by installing it/them after you've download from the Videohelp link(s). Once it's installed in the Windows sytem, it'll be available to ALL VFW-based encoder/decoder applications. (you can do similar things with Directshow-based apps) Assuming VFW and AVI 1.0 is SMM's limitation, a 10min. movie using a high quality DV codec (25mbps, or 13GB/hour) would be ~1.9GB, still small enough to remain as 1 non-segmented file! This is not really that big in the normal scheme of digital video files, either. Of course, this DV file would be re-compressed with an MPEG encoder first to make ready for DVD authoring... Scott |
