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     Ryan van Barneveld (Ryanvb) New member Username: Ryanvb Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2007 Rating: N/A |
I see people are successfully using shutter glasses with their DLP projectors... but what about DLP rear-projection sets? I imagine they work much like a projector would, only with the projector inside the TV enclosure. Has anyone had any success syncing their rear-projection TVs with shutter glasses? I've got a Toshiba 56HM195 DLP 1080P set. | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2006  Rating: N/A |
Hello Ryan, there is good news and bad news to your question. The good news: Samsung and Mitsubishi are selling a new line of "3D Ready" DLP High Def TV's. I've tested a model and find that it gives outstanding 3D performance. The best facet of these models is the fast refresh rates they provide - 120 Hertz. I am amazed at the quality of 3D on the new 3D-HDTV's. Bad news: Your Toshiba and other DLP sets would probably have a slow stereo refresh rate of 60 Hz. I haven't tested these models but expect that they would be impractical for 3D. I've collected some video demonstrations of the new "3D Ready" HDTV's and some guides for using them: http://www.3dflightsim.com/videos.htm My site and Andrew Wood's very excellent site have a list of the new 3D Ready HDTV models: http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dhdtvs.html Good Luck!  | |||
| Ryan van Barneveld (Ryanvb) New member Username: Ryanvb Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2007 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Alan. So I guess I should just test refresh rates > 60hz on my display? | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 86 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I recently purchased a 3D ready (yeah right) Samsung TV. Now I am looking into the PC I need to also purchase (thus the 'yeah right' comment above). Looking at Dell 530/531 models. Anyone got any good advice for the proper PC specs? I know I need 2 GM RAM, WinDVD and a PC with Dual-Core processing, but I am stuck on which video card to select/specify...I know it needs to output 1080p DVI/HMDI, but I see something at the Dell site about some computers support dual DVI (?)...do i need that? Is there a ready-made big box store computer that will work as well? Any help on the PC side of this greatly appreciated! (Message edited by rrrrob on December 05, 2007) | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Rrrrob, if you are not doing 3D-gaming, just using the 3D-Samsung for 3D-video and movies the only PC requirements you need (in my testing) is to be able to run 3DTV.at's Stereoplayer. I think the dual core CPU requirement is only needed to play dual stream 3D files with the Stereoplayer. I got great 3D with a pretty minimum setup. If your video card has a DVI output you should be okay. There is a test report on my site: http://www.3DFlightSim.com | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 88 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
This TV doesnt have DVI input, only HMDI, so I guess that means I need a video card with HMDI output? | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 14 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Rrrrob, No, No. I tried a motherboard with an integrated HDMI connector --- it didn't work! You just need a DVI to HDMI cable. About $14. There is a cabling diagram here: http://www.3dflightsim.com/articles/HDTVisHERE_p4.htm | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 89 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
cool! excellent website, by the way. I am still paranoid about getting the right PC...hope I can figure this out! Would like to get one that can be set on its side so it will fit on the TV stand I bought tonight...the TV comes tomorrow and the stand shows up sometime in the next 2 - 5 days... | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 90 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
another question: My understanding is that the current wireless glass I use with my virtualFX converter (for CRT televisions) won't work with the newer HD 3D viewing system...I have both terminator and elsa styles, but these are not compatible with the transmitter designed for DLP 3D-ready tvs, correct? Thanks again! | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 15 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi, I've been told that the 3D-Ready DLP's work with the terminator as well as the elsa IR emitters. In fact my Samsung works both emitters (plus my own design, of course). The TV's seem to follow the VESA standard for 3D signals - you should be okay and might not have to buy new 3D glasses. I have been using eDimensional terminator type shutter glasses at 120 Hz - no problem. (Not absolutely sure all E-D models will work, just the ones I have in stock.) BTW - Please post the results of your setup when it arrives!! Good luck!  (Message edited by ajay501 on December 06, 2007) | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
hmmmm....the razor3D site says this about one set of glasses (Elsa style) supposedly for DLP TVs: Includes one pair of wireless DLP 3D glasses. The glasses work with DLP 3D Viewing Systems ONLY. In any event, I will probably get the basic starter system with the emitter, software and one pair of glasses and test the glasses I have to see if they work. | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
okay, so here's the Dell I'm thinking about getting: PROCESSOR AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 4000+ OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic MONITOR No Monitor MEMORY 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs HARD DRIVE 250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ OPTICAL DRIVE 16x DVD+/-RW Drive VIDEO CARD NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Integrated Graphics GPU SOUND Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio KEYBOARD & MOUSE Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse I know the dual-core processor may not be necessary (although the seller of the DLP 3D viewing systems says it's required), but I figure maybe I WILL want to play games on this PC down the road... The above specs are running around $459. It supposedly has the 1080p output, DVI support, 2 Gb RAM, that are all spec'd as required by Razor3D for the DLP 3D system. Thoughts? Anyone have any reason to believe this won't display field-sequential 3D content properly when hooked up to my Samsung 1080p 3D ready TV? Is it overkill? | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Rrrrob, I suggest you write Mr. Wimmer at www.3DTV.at and ask him about the GeForce 6150 Integrated graphics ... if his Stereoplayer will support it. (please post his answer if you find this out.) I tried a board with ATI integrated graphics (with HDMI output) and it could not produce stereo 3D on the 3D Ready Samsung. Also, I understand that the integrated graphics is not so hot for gaming. Sorry  | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
doh! I don't know that i will use the stereoscopic player anyway, as the 3D set I am looking at comes with the software (TriDef). But GEEZE, looks like you need a Computer Science degree to get the right PC to make this work! This better, ya think?: PROCESSOR Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4500 (2MB L2 Cache,2.20GHz,800 FSB) edit OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English edit MONITOR No Monitor edit MEMORY 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs edit HARD DRIVE 320GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ edit OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit VIDEO CARD 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-DDR3 edit SOUND Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit KEYBOARD & MOUSE Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse edit FLOPPY & MEDIA READER No Floppy Drive Included edit MODEM & WIRELESS 56K PCI Data Fax Modem (Message edited by rrrrob on December 08, 2007) | |||
| Peter Žiak (Hornet) Advanced Member Username: Hornet Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hello from 3D stereo sight the graphic card 8xxx series from NVIDIA is problematic (absence of 3D stereodrivers). I have information - problemless 3D stereo is only with 7xxx or 6xxx (no onboard) graphics card (this is more important for gaming) in 3D stereo. Better were 7900 GT,GTX or with DDR3 memory. | |||
| Noah White (Noahjwhite) New member Username: Noahjwhite Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2007 Rating: N/A |
There are beta forceware drivers available for the 8XXXX line of cards go here http://www.mtbs3d.com/ to download them. The 7900 line should be fine for most games right now. As I understand it... the 3D produced by the samsung TV does not need the 3d stereoscopic driver to work. It is supposed to have it's own software that will work with any video card meeting it's specs. | |||
| Mikymike (Mikymike) New member Username: Mikymike Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I also bought a Samsung DLP TV with the 3D Ready option. I use the IR emitter (it have a VESA connector, usually connected to a VGA passthrough) from the 3D kit for PC, from E-Dimentional. It work great. I also have the wireless 3D Razor kit and I can confirm that the glasses work great for the TV. The DLP TV is not polarized like an LCD monitor (Razor glasses don't work with LCD display because of the polarization), so I don't think special glasses are needed for the DLP TV, any wireless shutter glasses will probably work if they can work with a VESA IR emitter. You don't need any driver on the computer to watch 3D movies, but you need Stereoscopic Player version 1.2.x (I think) that support DLP TV display. I don't know if there's any solutions to play games in 3D on the 3D Ready DLP TV. The quality seem really really good, without the flicking problem. | |||
| Peter Žiak (Hornet) Advanced Member Username: Hornet Post Number: 92 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Yes, it is possible running of games with NV drivers on this TVs it is necesary running first the little aplication for this mode. This patch is on www.mtbs3d.com site. Here the copy of News site: November 14, 2007 NVIDIA DRIVERS & 3D HDTV PATCH! Hello everyone! For those of you who own a Samsung or Mitsubishi 3D HDTV based on DLP technology, Wbloos uploaded a special patch that will let you use the existing NVIDIA stereo drivers with your 3D HDTV (e.g. Samsung & Mitsubishi DLP sets). You can get it in the MTBS FILE EXCHANGE category found in the DOWNLOADS section (main menu). In hollydays is new registration problematic - I think this is simpliest way. Enjoy. Peter
(Message edited by Hornet on December 24, 2007) | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 96 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
i tried the free version of stereoscopic player, and i get this strange shimmering effect in the video...I tried this software because the Tridef stuff doesn't seem to work on the video card THEY RECOMMENDED (nvidia Geforce 6600), but nothing really seems to be working out for me. I notice this video card won't allow configuration beyond 60 Hz refresh...is that part of the problem with the Tridef or stereoscopic player??? I noticed the flickering DOES seem greatly diminished over my old CRT shutter theater setup, but the weird shimmer effect I am getting with stereoscopic player seems unacceptable. Any guidance appreciated here--I've been banging my head against the wall. I have a Samsung 3D-ready DLP TV (HLT5687S), the emitter hooked up to the TV 3D sync port, and my PC seems to have everything needed (DVI output on the nvidia card, connected to the TV HDMI port). If I could get the stereocopic player to work properly, I would consider dumping the Tridef garbage, but I don't want to spend another $50 on 3D video (stereoscopic player) that at first glance doesn't appear acceptable. The video IS 3D, but the shimmering effect makes it look worse than what I had going with the CRT monitor. Is there some setting I have wrong in stereoscopic player, or is it my videocard? | |||
| Peter Žiak (Hornet) Advanced Member Username: Hornet Post Number: 93 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi, have too 6600 card, 2GB RAM, Athlon 3200+ single procesor. 3D stereo problemless (1027x768,85 Hz). On other side - the high res. can by problematic, I run 2048x768 res games (no video) at 85 Hz -problemless. For full HD 3D are the parameters for stereoscopic player described on 3dtv.at. | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Rrrrob - email mail me at info@3DFlightSim.com, I will try to help. When we figure out the problem we'll post the answer here. My first question is what 3D video are you watching with the stereoscopic player (though I imagine you've looked at several files). But I'd like some details regarding your glasses. Earlier you said that you have both terminator and elsa type glasses. Same shimmering with both? | |||
| Neil Schneider (Chopper) New member Username: Chopper Post Number: 20 Registered: 3-2007  Rating: N/A |
Sorry about the problems with MTBS. We got a lot of bugs cleared up, the registrations work again, but the downloads are still temporarily down because our databases need a little reprogramming. Merry Christmas and happy holidays, though! Regards, Neil | |||
| Peter Žiak (Hornet) Advanced Member Username: Hornet Post Number: 94 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Merry Christmas for all "3D positives". Peter | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Okay, thanks to everyone for their help! First off, I discovered that the Nvidia drivers weren't installed properly (or not the latest drivers, perhaps?). I went to their site and downloaded the newest drivers and that seemed to stop the Tridef error message that my video card wasn't powerful enough (I guess it was complaining about the on-board video card). However, I couldn't for the life of me get any of the Tridef-recommended DVD Codecs to install (I am using Microsoft Vista, by the way). First I tried the freeware MPA/MPV decoders. Got error messages that the modules were installed, but something about DLL couldn't be pulled--I dunno, something to that effect. Then, I downloaded Cyberlink's PowerDVD SE, but I got an error message that the installation was stopped because the software is for Microsoft Vista only (great--that's exactly what I'm using! $14.95 down the drain there). I tried the free trial version of WinDVD, and that wouldn't install properly either (yet another error message, something about Runtime DLL blah blah blah). That's when I discovered the free-trial option for Stereoscopic Player discussed in a previous post above where I was seeing a pulsing/shimmering effect (more on that in a minute). But to answer an earlier question, yes, Stereoscopic Player DOES work with the nVidia GeForce 6600 card. I couldn't find it anywhere but ebay, for around $40 shipped. Now, as for the glasses--the ones I had previously (the ones that came with my old VirtualFX box, and ones purchased later)--they don't work with this emitter. I noticed that the glasses I got specifically for this setup say "DLP 3D" on the arms (and look exactly like the Elsa style). However, I only tried the Elsa design--when they didn't react, I didn't even bother with the terminator glasses. The emitter I am using is plugged directly to the 3D Sync Out on the back of the TV. As for the pulsing/shimmering effect, I went back to Stereoscopic Player, and found that it was (so far) only the Encounters in the Third Dimension DVD that was doing this noticeably. I popped in Shark Boy and Lava Girl and WOW--great stereo effect and CRYSTAL FREAKIN' CLEAR, NO FLICKER, AWESOME! I think it may have to do with the level of detail in the movie, but not quite sure. Afterwards, I tried the Sensio version of Bugs! and it looked fairly good, but with some of the pulsing artifacts I noticed in Encounter/Third Dimension, but only when there was movement (Bugs has more fine detailed objects in it and I think it was more of an aliasing thing, perhaps related to the decompression of the left/right frames, resulting in lost resolution?). With Encounters, the pulsing was evident even when the camera is stationary. Since I already have the Tridef software installed, I am curious to see if the pulsing thing I see with the Encounter DVD goes away. I also upped the resolution but haven't tried the movie again (I reduced the resulution because it was cropping the desktop). It's a shame that the stereoscopic player software wasn't the one included in the package I bought--I didn't see Alan's website discussing the DLP TVs until it was too late! I definitely recommend getting JUST the emitter and glasses, and downloading stereoscopic player, as the installation of the appropriate codecs is definitely MUCH easier. I like the interface also, but I really have nothing to compare it to since the Tridef stuff still isn't functional. The sad thing is that all of this expense and computer/videocard/codec trouble is going to hurt the success of 3D on these newer TVs, as most of the 3D people I know are NOT going to have the time or patience or know-how to get this all together! I can't believe Samsung and the others have even bothered to get into this market (although I am thrilled they are!), but I think the effort will be wasted on the few of us early adopters and 3D fanatics. With the stand-alone units from Razor3D costing more than the the TVs in some cases, I can't see this becoming mainstream as many hope it will. As for me--if only Sensio would start releasing those Hollywood 3D titles that keep getting postponed....Jaws 3D was supposed to be released this December (which is just about over)! Still no sign of it on their website... One side note: The sales person where I bought my DLP TV mentioned a feature of these TVs where two different people could see two different images on the same screen at once (i.e., one person watching TV while another is playing videogames)...I can see how this might be feasible, as with 3D, there are two images being sent out, but I have not heard this anywhere else...If anyone knows more, would be interesting to hear more, but really, although it sounds cool, I can't image how practical this would be, especially when you consider audio. P.S.: Here are the specs for my PC: -MSI GeForce 6600 128MB DDR PCI-E DVI -Inspiron 530,Intel Core2 Duo processor E4500 (2.20GHz ,800FSB) w/Dual Core Technology and 2MB cache -1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz -Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 (useless/using the nVidia card above in its place) -250GB SATA II Hard Drive (7200RPM) -Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition, English (32-bit version) -Cyberlink Power DVD 7.0 (I am thinking THIS should have had the necessary codecs for the TriDef Media Player, but for some reason, it's not!) (Message edited by rrrrob on December 27, 2007) | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 99 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Anyone know what the failure mode is for weakened batteries in the wireless glasses? Now it seems I have to be 4 feet in front of the television for the shutters to shutter...Is that how I know the batteries are weak or is something ELSE going wrong now? I don't have fresh batteries around at the moment to test this out, but my VirtualFX glasses seem to be working fine with the same batteries... Also, I noticed on the transmitter I have that the two 'bulbs' sticking out of the front are not symmetrically aimed....When looking down on them, the right 'bulb' seems slightly pointed to the right, while the left one looks to be pointed straight ahead...is this emitter flawed? | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 100 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
okay, for any of you who might have a similar setup to mine, and might be running into the same issues: The Tridef website recommends 4 or 5 different DVD decoders. My computer (Microsoft Vista OS) already had Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.0 installed, but for whatever reason, the Tridef Media Player failed to recognize it. The first thing I tried was the freeware Decoders recommended on Tridef's website. I don't know if it's JUST my computer, or a general problem with Vista software, but when I tried to install the DVD decoders, I got this error message: The module "Mpeg2DecFilter.ax" was loaded but the call to DllRegisterServer failed with error code 0x80070005. That error code means access denied (why can't error codes just SAY what they mean??? Sheesh!). So here is the workaround I came across to install these DVD decoders: 1. Download codecs/decoders onto your hard drive (or a disk if your TV PC is not connected to the internet; transfer the files to the TV PC). 2. Unzip/extract the two packages (MPA for audio, MPV for mpeg2 video) to where you can find them on your hard drive. Use the files from 'Release' folder if you're running Windows 9x/Me or 'Release Unicode' if you're running Windows 2000/XP/Vista. 3. Copy appropriate AX files into system32 folder [ C:\WINDOWS\system32 ] 4. In your startmenu, go to "Accessories" find a shortcut called "Command Prompt". Right-click on that shortcut and select "Run as". A window will be shown where you can select a user account. You should select an Administrator account. 5. To install the files, type in the command window: regsvr32 filename.ax (for the MPV codec, then do the MPA codec) 6. In the end, you should receive a message saying that your file was succesfully installed/uninstalled.} | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Rrrrob, Congratulations on your setup!! Terrific progress. Looks like your are on your way to some great 3D. I suggest that in the Stereoscopic Player open up the Files-->Settings window and click the tab that says "Decoder".  The Cyberlink decoders should be in the drop-down list since you have the PowerDVD installed. I found the PowerDVD decoders to work the best with everything. (You may have to disable the Tridef stuff) Some of my older glasses have a very limited range. I even think the LED receiver seems to degrade after 4 or 5 years with the terminator types. But low batteries do also cause the glasses to act flaky. Good Luck and Happy New Year! | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 101 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I am told that the DLP 3D glasses are different than the other wireless glasses because the IR of the remote for the TV can cause interference with the IR of the 3D glasses emitter. However, the night before last, they were working fine from across the room. i-glasses wrote back and said the problem probably is the batteries, although I dont quite understand how week batteries would affect the transmission range--after all, it's the emitter sending out the signal and the signal should have consistent strength regardless of the batteries in the receiver (glasses in this case). I will switch decoders in stereoscopic player to the Cyberlink PowerDVD ones, as you recommend, but really have no complaints with the ones I was told to download at the 3dtv.at site. I was able to get both programs working last night (Stereoscopic Player and Tridef Media Player). I am going to leave the Tridef software installed as the Google Earth stuff that came with it sounds interesting. I may want to try some 3D games as well. I have virtually no clue about either of these applications' requirements or capabilities at the moment, but hope to spend some time figuring it all out. Thanks for all the help! | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Total bummer...new batteries and the glasses still only work 3 or 4 feet from the emitter (hardly practical)...I can't believe all the trouble this has been. | |||
| Steve Mace (Abydos) New member Username: Abydos Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2007 Rating: N/A |
Unlucky Rob. I have one thing i'd like to know thats been bothering me, I didn't want to clutter the forum with a small new thread though. I hear that some of the rear projection tvs have a refresh rate of 120Hz and everyone is going on about how great this is.. but am I missing something or wouldn't the shutter glasses effectively take this down to 60? To be honest 60hz is not acceptable for me, it strained my eyes on my old crt monitor. I'd rather wait for the HD projectors to drop in price and go for a passive polarised setup. | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 103 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
My understanding is that the DLP glasses are different than the standard CRT type glasses...I believe the DLP 3D glasses use the 120 Hz rate--I got a new emitter and can now finally watch some 3D flicks on this Samsung DLP television and the results are pretty outstanding. Even the underground 3D stuff looks pretty good--was thinking the flaws would be too much for a higher def television to mask enough to be watchable...and I am detecting no flicker whatsoever. (Message edited by rrrrob on January 05, 2008) | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 105 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
alan: just went through your DLP section again on your website...two questions: It looks like the glasses/emitter you recommend (wireless upgrade kit) are for the PC itself--is this a better way to go than using the 3D sync output on the TV? Also, you mentioned that the Tridef software was useless...I have been playing around with the 3D Google Earth feature, which I thought was kinda neat...did you get a chance to try that out? Why did you say the software is useless? I have both the Tridef stuff and the 3dtv.at stereoscopic player--i like them both, but was curious what you didn't like about the Tridef stuff. Thanks! | |||
| Alan Johnson (Ajay501) New member Username: Ajay501 Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Rob, thanks for the good question. I'm happy that your system is up and running! About question #1: "It looks like the glasses/emitter you recommend (wireless upgrade kit) are for the PC itself--is this a better way to go than using the 3D sync output on the TV?" Yes, EDimensional does not market the upgrade kit for 3D Ready TV's ... that's MY idea. E-D sells the kit for PC users. But the "upgrade kit" emitter CAN plug directly into the 3D-HDTV.  Here's why I came up with the E-D "upgrade kit" idea. There are thousands of owners of these new 3D Ready TV's who are completely new to 3D. But these new 3D-TV's are so fantastic! They have got to try out the 3D! But most people will not try it out if they have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars just for a look-see. So on my website I have a way for people to test out their new 3D Ready TV, maybe with a computer they already own, and they only have to spend $60 for glasses and emitter. About question #2: No, I haven't tried out the 3D Google Earth. But I've heard that it is fantastic. I am sure that the 3D Google Earth makes the DDD Experience package well worth the purchase. I would also add that the ELSA type glasses that you can buy with the DDD package have much greater range and are of better quality for 3D-HDTV than the E-D upgrade kit. BTW, Rrrob, were you able to get DVD's to play using the Tridef DVD player? Thanks again for the question ... it makes me realize an update is needed on the website! (Message edited by ajay501 on January 14, 2008) | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 106 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi: Yes, I was finally able to get the 3D movies to work with the player, but not without much frustration! The keyboard shortcuts are not documented within the software like they are with Stereoscopic Player...you have to be connected to the internet to pull up the software's documentation (this being a PC for the TV only, I had not yet connected it to the internet for a couple of reasons). I noticed that the DDD media player's buttons (play, fast forward, etc.) were showing in 3D, but the field-sequential movies were FLAT! I kept toggling that 3D/2D button on the bottom right of the Tridef media player with no effect. FINALLY, the Tridef support people asked me if I had used the "D" key on the keyboard to switch to the propoer 3D format--I had no clue about this, so of course I hadn't even touched the "D" button, but when I did it finally showed the movie in 3D. I thought I should probably print out the keyboard shortcut screen for future reference, but the webpage doesn't print out! However, I now have the TV PC connected to the internet so I should be able to pull up the software's documentation from now on (haven't tried it yet). I have one other question maybe someone can help with...I notice on the settings for the nvidia card I have (GeForce 6600), the highest refresh rate I can set is 60 Hz. I thought this TV was a 120 Hz TV, but can find nothing about refresh rate for this TV (Samsung HLT5687S). However, I detect no flicker whatsoever...aren't standard CRT TVs running at 60 Hz? I thought that was why the flicker was easily detected on CRTs...why don't I see flicker on this new setup? (Message edited by rrrrob on January 15, 2008) (Message edited by rrrrob on January 15, 2008) | |||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 111 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
More on the dual-view concept: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/texas-instruments-shows-off-dlp-dualview-technology/ | |||
| Luigi Gallo (Luigi3d) New member Username: Luigi3d Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2008 Rating: N/A |
Hi, my question is: is it possible for the nVidia driver to apply the checkerboard pattern needed for the Samsung /Mitsubisci TV? I have a nVidia Quadro FX4600 card, I manually generate the left / right stereoscopic views (openGL) and I use the QuadBuffering Clone mode (provided by the nVidia driver) to view them on a passive visualization systems. These TVs are different, since they require a different coded image (and active glasses). Can I use the nVidia driver? Or is it possible to buy a device that mixes left and right image in a single image with the checkerboard pattern? |
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