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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

What are your experiences with the ED glasses for LCD-monitors?

What are the exact technical differences between the new (LCD) and the old model?
Obviously they modified the shutters to prevent polarization problems.
I would also expect some regulator to compensate for time-gaps, i.e. sync-problems caused by the displays buffer. Is this the case?

Am I right to assume it only works at 60 or 70 Hz in page-flipping and line-blanking mode? So ATI-support will always be line-blanking/alternate-line-format?

Thank you.

Christoph
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Cristiano Messaad

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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hello, Christoph!

Thank you for putting up such an interesting webpage. I am a novice so I could not understand much of your reviews but I intended to buy 3D Glasses.

I am actually asking you if you think it would be a good bargain for me to buy ED glasses for LCD monitors.

I have an ATI X800 card and LCD 17 inches.

If you tell me they are good 3D glasses (basing your opinion on your review of the non-LCD models...) and that there are good drivers for my ATI card, I will soon order them and test them for you happily.

I would just not want to waste money though...I would have liked to buy those one that are numeber one in your list but they are not in production yet, right ? And I have read that Eyes3D are out of business. Is it so ?

Thank you so much!
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M.H.

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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I had just ordered E-dimensional LCD comaptible shuterglasses for testing (my company GALI-3D would like to re-distribute them eventualy). I will make testing with several LCD monitrs as well as head to head comarison to CRT version.
I will let you know the results ...
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chris.monks

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Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

So how did yoy get on with the LCD test, I'm dying to know if there worth getting
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M.H.

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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Chris: I have the galsses availabe, but we have no LCD monitors :-). We us only CRT becouse of stereoscopic comaptiblity. I am just finding way how to borrow an LCD for testing ...
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M.H.

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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 5:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I had finaly tested the eDimansional glasses (LCD comaptible model) with EIZO FlexScan L568 monitor.

Result sumarization: It is stereoscopicaly totaly non-functional, but the problem is not in the glasses. Or I do something totaly wrong.

The glases were always correctly shutterging passing light through both eye (not in conflict with the monitor polarization). This is the maximum what could be done on the glasses side. I had tested both the wired and wireles eDimensional LCD compatible version.

But the monitor was in all modes producing totaly wrong non-flickering output.
At frequences higher than 60 Hz the monitor was ommiting one field - showing only left eye view.
At 60 Hz the result was 100% ghosting. Even with glasses shutering the left and right image was visible in both eyes. This sounds like light elements slower than 1/30 s.

So it look like it will be useful to put together a list of monitors working O.K. ... I have unfortunately acces only to a few one, not to some modern one with fast image change ....
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M.H.

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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 5:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have got comments from eDimensional people:
The LCD monitors do not work correct with page flipping mode. Line blanking mode is neccesary.
I will try this again in line blanking mode and let you know.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

For flickerfree images you need at least 100 Hz (50 per eye). No LCD display can do this, so how should this glasses ever work at all? Maybe on some fast LCDs at 60 Hz, but that's unacceptable...

Nevertheless, please post your test results so that we know which monitors are 3D capable at 60 Hz. Thanks!
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gx

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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

yes but isn't the 100hz thing only applying to CRTs? ie TFTs don't work remotely the same and as such you don't get flicker even at 60hz? - it is that way for games anyway where the response time is more important than a refresh rate.

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Georges Naves

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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have received recently the e dimensional glasses LCD compatible and tested them with a Philips LCD monitor .What I tried to do is to watch an IMAX DVD using Peter Wimmer's Stereoscopic Player and these glasses and I set the monitor to its maximum refresh rate (75 Hz )
After several attempts I was able to get it work using the following tricks ;I hope somebody will be able to explain and to suggest a more practical way ):
Declare LCD in the ed controller
Exit the ed controller before starting Stereoscopic Player
Start playing in monoscopic mode until you reach the 3D part of the DVD then switch to stereoscopic mode using "interleave left first"
Call back the ed controller and select "3d display on "
The result is indeed very good ,however I have only been able to get it work in window mode,not full screen.
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Can Selçik

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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have Wireless ED Glasses and Philips 170S4 LCD Monitor. I purchased Wireless ED Glasses but i haven't used them yet. I hope they will work. But in the WebSite of the eDimensional, it says these glasses works with all LCD monitors.
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MarkS

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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have the Edimensional glasses and a 19" LCD working at 76 hz.

I only had success with the Edimensional drivers, select LCD 1 setting and use in Line blanking mode. Also I could only run in stereo running games full screen at *native* resolution of the monitor ie 1280 X 1024

This meant my frame rate was very poor, the resolution was halved by line blanking mode and the picture was very dim ( due to the polarizing glasses ).

The glasses have been gatheering dust for a while now. I don't recommend them with an LCD monitor.

Mark
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Lars Ahnland (Stereoviewer)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Disappointing news, but still interesting. IŽm thinking of using a 40" LCD TFT tv with ED-glasses. The response time sould be enough, and the native refresh rate of the tv is 75 or 85 Hz. WeŽll see if I actually tru this. If I bring a pair of LCD ED-glasses and my laptop to a store, I can try it.
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louloutetmtm (Louloute)
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Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 9:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have the LCD compatible ED glasses and tried them but it do not work at all. While using stereoscopic player the glasses don't shutter even when the display do it. I also tried them with ED drivers with the game unreal tournament but the glasses and the display aren't synchronised.
Any ideas about those problems??
Thanks
Louloute
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Lars Ahnland (Stereoviewer)
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Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The ED drivers sucks from what I heard. I never tried stereoscopic player. Try the new 91.28 nvidia forceware + nvidia stereo drivers.
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Dirk Reiners (Dirk)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Any new verdicts on this one? I would really like to use an LCD monitor for stereo...

Has anybody tried the ViewSonic VX922? It has 10 ms effective latency (according to Tom's Hardware), which would allow it to run 100 Hz, but I couldn't find out if it actually does that.

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