| Author | Message | ||
     Stephen (Ste1700) New member Username: Ste1700 Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
So, I decided to write Tdvision and ask the price of the tdvisor. Here is what they replied back with. "The TDVisor with 800x600 resolution is ready for purchase now at a price of $1,300. The 1280x768 resolution TDVisor can be pre-ordered now for a price of $1,500. We estimate we will be able to ship the hi-def TDVisor around mid-May." | ||
| jackie (Johnoliver) New member Username: Johnoliver Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2007 Rating: N/A |
wow~ the price when they announced it is 499 ~ now they increase it so much?! | ||
| Andrea (Heandrea) New member Username: Heandrea Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Maybe they don't need to compete with EMagin any more? | ||
| Stephen (Ste1700) New member Username: Ste1700 Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
Yeah, So I figure that I am going to buy the Icuiti instead because the Tdvisor is way too much. Too bad EMagin raised their prices on the Z800. | ||
| jackie (Johnoliver) New member Username: Johnoliver Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2007 Rating: N/A |
but still, 1500$ for a 1280x768 resolution 3d visor is still pretty good at current market~ i will wait for some user review when it comes out | ||
| Andres Hernandez (Cybereality) New member Username: Cybereality Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 Rating: N/A |
The $1500 price tag of the TDVisor is the corporate price tag or for "early-adopter" consumers. I have been told by TDVision, that the price will be greatly reduced when it hits the consumer market. I believe they mentioned $500, but I'm not sure if thats a official price. However May is very soon and I would have expected a little more information by now. The company has had prototypes and military versions for years, although the consumer model has been announced as early as the '06 CES (and gone through a bunch of different designs). Chances are it might be releasing closer to summer 07. It appears that the device it targeted toward 3d video more than games or VR. The fact that they are also releasing a 3d hd camera, shows they wish to support the video aspects of this device. I'm also looking at the Icuiti VR920, as it seems to be targeted toward games specifically. Also, $399 is a nice price. | ||
| Damian Trevor Beard (Damian) New member Username: Damian Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
Not sure how relevant it still is, but in an article at ExtremeTech ( http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1909004,00.asp ) covering CES 2006, they say that TDVision are expecting to have visors for around $200. Does anyone know what the Field of View for the TDVisors? And they go on alot about how they've fixed all the problems that can be caused by Stereoscopic imaging, but I haven't heard an explanation (beyond, it doesn't trick the Brain... Ok, so how is it technically different?), does anyone know what they've changed? I've always felt frame-sequential rendering would cause issues because each eye is getting information that is offset, although I'm not sure of the validity of that. (and besides since Stereoscopics are relatively unknown to the consumer market, hardware such as computers only have mono outputs. So frame-sequential is the only way with current outputs, no?) | ||
| Andres Hernandez (Cybereality) New member Username: Cybereality Post Number: 11 Registered: 1-2007 Rating: N/A |
The exact FOV has not been released, however this is what was mentioned in the brochure: "The field of view is equivalent to 72" @ 10ft for the standard resolution (800x600) and 108" @ 10ft for the high def version (720p / 1280x768), so it's quite large." That sounds like its somewhere between 30 and 40 degrees, but its hard to say without seeing the unit. I'm not sure if its frame-sequential or not. They have a proprietary driver that may be using another method (at least this is what they allude to). It is said it works with the Quadro FX 1500 stereo capabilities (which is quad buffered, progressive-scan 3d), so it may actually provide a better 3d experience. It could of course just be marketing hype as well, I'll have to try the unit before I make any judgment. I found it funny that they said "it doesn't trick the brain," which would really only be possible with a true holographic display and not dual lcds, but whatever. Any VR company is expected to generate some amount of hype, which might entice the casual consumer to try a new product. | ||
| Damian Trevor Beard (Damian) New member Username: Damian Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the info, yes, I guess we'll have to wait and see. What I find most promising though is that if they really do get units down to $200, even if they aren't any better in terms of potential side-effects then other modern Stereo HMDs (provided they aren't worse), these will really take off. It will be a must have consumer technology. The eMagin Z800 nearly did this, many Computer magazines reviewed them as a gaming accesory, and the main response was that while they were good the side-effects were not appreciated, for something that costs so much, and had such a small resolution. But if TDVision really do get low res version HMDs for $200 and 720p HD 1024x768 /1280x768 for <$1000, there really is very little stopping these from being huge. | ||
| Ross (Endrogen) New member Username: Endrogen Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
may has passed so i e-mailed and asked what the new release date was for the high res version and they said mid sept. for the basic high end model which will be US$1500. | ||
| Devil Master (Devil_master) New member Username: Devil_master Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
I hope they won't pull an eMagin on us... that is start with a moderate price, then drop it, then triplicate it. (Message edited by Devil Master on June 25, 2007) | ||
| Damian Trevor Beard (Damian) New member Username: Damian Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
From contact in May: "We have the TDVisor available under request for the 800x600 resolution and we are accepting on-line pre-orders for the High-Def (1280x720p) version to be released in about 4 months. We have working prototypes of the HD version, it's just that it requires some changes. Currently the prices are 1,200 and 1,500 for the two versions, We are anticipating the price line to reach the 500usd for the SVGA 800x600 version and 750 for the HighDef version in about one year but that depends on the massive adoption as a response from the market, so we can't assure it." | ||
| Stephen (Ste1700) New member Username: Ste1700 Post Number: 8 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
Well, lets hope that they at least release the product. | ||
| Andres Hernandez (Cybereality) Member Username: Cybereality Post Number: 41 Registered: 1-2007 Rating: N/A |
The product does look enticing, but $1500 for a prototype model with possibly no support is asking a bit much. And the TDVisor has supposedly been coming out since like last year. I'll believe it when I see it. | ||
| Ross (Endrogen) New member Username: Endrogen Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
i think the mention of a prototype means that they actually do have working units, as opposed to schematics of one... as for support, as they are providing companies with sdk's im sure there will be some support.. http://theboard.zogdog.com/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=11&showentry=13566 Im looking forward to september  | ||
| Adam Guri (Questvr) New member Username: Questvr Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Wasn't TD Visor being called crap a while back? Has anyone tried it? www.questvr.com | ||
| Neil Schneider (Chopper) New member Username: Chopper Post Number: 15 Registered: 3-2007  Rating: N/A |
I know this is an old thread, but the CEO of TDVision Systems Inc. (makers of TDVisor and TDVCam) was interviewed at http://www.mtbs3D.com! Regards, Neil | ||
| T.C. Miles (Tcmiles) New member Username: Tcmiles Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2008 Rating: N/A |
soo... it's like April now... did they release it? did this thread just die?? ill guess ill go google it and find out if it is the cheapest 720p HMD at $1.2k -$1.5k w/ a fov > 22 degrees | ||
| Dan (Stee1hed) New member Username: Stee1hed Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I recently went to TDVision (I work in the Chicago land area) and sampled the 800x600 version. My short review is here... http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1155 | ||
| Ku (Kudawg) New member Username: Kudawg Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2006 Rating: N/A |
Dan, have you received your tdvisor yet? Any word on how long it takes after you pre-order one.. | ||
| Charles Arrants (Charles) Intermediate Member Username: Charles Post Number: 61 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Dan: In your review of the 800 x 600 version of the TDVision unit, you seem pleased with its "crystal clear" image. Can you comment specifically on the presence or absence of a visible "screen door effect," which is a major annoyance when viewing 3-D images? Two years ago I purchased eMagin's z800 3D Visor, and I was disappointed with the obvious "screen door effect" of its OLED screens. All of the 3-D images appeared to have a fine mesh net passing through them at screen level (zero parallax). The visibility of this "screen door effect" decreases as screen resolution increases, so it may not be a problem with the higher resolution versions of the TDVisor. But it was terrible with the 800 x 600 eMagin unit, and I'm curious as to whether it is present in TDVisor's 800 x 600 version as well. | ||
| Andres Hernandez (Cybereality) Intermediate Member Username: Cybereality Post Number: 62 Registered: 1-2007 Rating: N/A |
I haven't seen the TDVisor yet, but I don't notice any sort of "screen-door" effect with the VR920's and both units use LCD technology. I assume that effect is due to the unique OLED screens used on the z800. The VR920 is only 640x480 native and the image is crystal clear (for the most part). Judging from specs alone the TDVisor should be a better quality unit than existing consumer HMDs (like Z800, VR920). |
