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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi!!

I'm new in this area, so sorry for my ignorance. For a project in which I'm working,I need to watch 3D films on TV. I know it's possible, but I don't know the better viewing method -shutter glasses, anaglyph...-.

I would like to use shutter glasses. Will I need a converter like Virtual FX http://www.3dforgames.com/english/product_fx_converter.htm or could I connect TV to my PC and only use the glasses for PC? Does the converter work well?

Do you recommend this method?Or would be better using anaglyph glasses?

Thank you in advance.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Doesn't anybody know the answer?
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Larry Elie (Ldeliecomcastnet)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

There are several 'converters'. They can be used while watching TV. The results vary with both the programming and your imagination. I bought my first set (the 3D TV box) in 1989 I think. With enough motion, you may get some effect. It isn't real 3D.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thank you!

Could I connect a TV to a PC instead of the monitor and use shutter glasses without a "converter"?
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Charles Arrants (Charles)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Paula:
If you want to get a 3-D effect from standard 2-D DVDs, you will always need a converter such as Virtual FX, regardless of whether playback is on the television or computer monitor.

If you intend to use actual field-sequential 3-D DVDs (such as those released by IMAX), you will not need any converter. Simply hook up a standard DVD player to your television, and the image will display in 3-D. For 3-D playback on your computer, you will need a software program (such as Peter Wimmer's Stereoscopic Player)capable of displaying stereoscopic video.

Shutter glasses are required for viewing both "converted" and true field-sequential 3-D DVDs.

Personally, I don't recommend 2-D to 3-D converters. They DON'T do a good job of creating convincing 3-D images, and you may find the results disappointing. If you want genuine 3-D video, watch true 3-D DVDs. Be aware that some sources -- Razor 3D, for example -- sell fake (computer-generated) 3-D DVDs which they falsely advertise as true 3-D.

I also don't recommend anaglyph 3-D DVDs. Most standard CRT televisions don't display the required primary colors correctly, and you will get considerable ghosting. Computer monitors do a better job with anaglyph displays, but the image is still inferior to that obtained with shutter glasses.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

First of all, I would like to thank you for your answers.

Charles:
I'm interested in what you tell about field-sequential 3-D DVDs. Then, could I watch one of those DVDs with my DVD player, my TV and eDimensional's shutter glasses for PC?

This glasses have a Video Synchronization Module for connecting to the VGA port of the computer. The monitor and the glasses also connect to this module. But how do I connect the glasses to the TV?
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Charles Arrants (Charles)
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

"Then, could I watch one of those DVDs with my DVD player, my TV and eDimensional's shutter glasses for PC?" Yes, you can.

In order to use the glasses with the television, you will need a video synchronization module which has the appropriate plugs for connecting to the video cable between the DVD player and the television. eDimensional sells a specific module for televsion viewing, but it isn't currently advertised on the company's website. You can e-mail them at sales@edimensional.com for information on cost and availability.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 6:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

"If you intend to use actual field-sequential 3-D DVDs (such as those released by IMAX), you will not need any converter. " (Charles)

I wrote eDimensional for information about the video synchronization module for viewing field-sequential 3D-DVD in my TV and they told me I need the Virtual FX converter but I don't want to convert anything!
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Charles Arrants (Charles)
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

"I wrote eDimensional for information about the video synchronization module for viewing field-sequential 3D-DVD in my TV and they told me I need the Virtual FX converter but I don't want to convert anything!" (Paula)

eDimensional gave you incorrect information. Since the product is no longer advertised on their website, they may have discontinued it and were trying to sell you a current item that you don't need.

Razor3D used to make an identical product which it called a "Video Synchronization Controller" or "Video Synchronization Box." Razor3D no longer sells it, but IT IS AVAILABLE ON eBAY in the old Razor3D 3-D DVD packages.

Go to eBay and do an "Advanced Search" for "video synchronization controller." (Be sure that the box "Search title and description" is checked.) You will get a list of 3-D movie packages like "Ultimate 3D Collection," etc. These packages contain several 3-D DVDs, usually two wired shuttter glasses, and the required video synchronization box. Buying one of these packages may be your best (and cheapest) option for obtaining the video synch unit you need.

Hint: The DVDs in the collections "The Fear Files" and "Ultimate 3D Horror Collection Vol. 2" are FAKE (computer converted) 3-D, so I would recommend purchasing one of the other available packages.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 7:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Charles!!

I only want to thank you for your comments, it's great to find someone as helpful as you

PS. I wrote eDimensional again telling them that I don't need to convert anything but their sales department insists in selling me the VirtualFX converter! I'll try at ebay

(Message edited by Paula on May 15, 2007)
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Scott Warren (Scott_warren)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

It's possible that the VFX converter --includes-- passthrough WITH glasses activation, in which case it ought to work for you (Can anyone verify?). But they're still trying to charge you for more features than you really want...

Scott
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Michal Husak (Husakm)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Paula: I do not thing to play 3D on TV is a god idea ... The result is so bad that this is not worth the effort ... Why do you do not use PC ?
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3d-geek (Rrrrob)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

at ebay, do a search on "3D shutter theater"....this will give you low-cost units to connect between your DVD player/TV.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 6:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I'm doing a research and I must use TV.

Thank you all
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Charles Arrants (Charles)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 7:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Paula, bring us up to date...

Did you find everything you needed to successfully watch 3-D DVDs on TV for your research project?
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Charles,

I've just received Virtual FX converter -because I've not found any other solution- and it works fine on my TV. The effect is not amazing but, at least, it works.

Thank you for your interest
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Charles Arrants (Charles)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Paula,

Will the Virtual FX converter allow unaltered passthrough of the signal from true 3-D DVDs, or does it attempt to "convert" all DVDs played through it? If it is modifying the signal from true 3-D DVDs, this will interfere with the proper 3-D image.
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Paula RP (Paula)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 6:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Yes.

There is an "Input" button which is set for the type of signal coming into the converter (game system, 2D video, or 3D video).

There is also an "Output" button to switch between 2D and 3D watching.

If I select 3D video input and 3D output I -hope- I'll see 3D DVDs without problem. I think that with this configuration the Virtual FX doesn't modify the signal, it only activates the glasses.
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Charles Arrants (Charles)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 3:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

If the Virtual FX converter works as you describe, it should display true 3-D DVDs properly.

If you aren't seeing completely normal depth levels in the image, with all the background, mid-range, and close-up objects appearing where they should be -- including objects popping out of the screen periodically -- the 3-D isn't displaying properly. (Faux and "converted" 3-D looks very unnatural, and you should be able to tell the difference instantly.)

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