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     Philip Heggie (Pheggie) Member Username: Pheggie Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi I bought it from Amazon UK and a friend at http://www.biohemmet.se/store.html Forum has tested and confirmed it's Region Free. | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 203 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
already making the rounds as field-sequential and above/below 3D formats for those who aren't yet ready to take the bluray plunge....they really should have had more titles avaible for the 3D launch...the lack of titles may very well KILL the home 3D wave...where's Avatar? I keep hearing people say they are waiting to see if home 3D takes off...with that attitude, it won't...especially with a very small handful of kiddie cartoons....who wants to shell out $3000 for THAT? | ||
| Fronzel Neekburm (Fronzel) Intermediate Member Username: Fronzel Post Number: 79 Registered: 7-2009 Rating: N/A |
I have avatar in stereoscopic 3D as a screener but it will prolly be some more months until it officially comes out on blu-ray. I guess they just wanna milk the people to the max. First sell them the 2D version, then a directors cut, then a 3D version. Shell out 3000 bucks for WHAT? an effing ordinary 120 Hz TV they labeled "3D" as they threw a pair of 20 dollar shutter glasses into the box? If this is all they will offer i seriously already see the place where the wave rolls back... I really hope affordable autostereoscopic parralax barrier based screens will become kinda affordable soon, before the "next generation" of 3D will be red/green anaglyph glasses. | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 205 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
i just noticed some DLP 3D-ready mitsubishis on sale....65" going for $995 U.S. funds, so apparently, they are not as expensive as I thought, unless these don't work with the 3D bluray players...but still, I paid $1700 for my 56" Samsung DLP in 2007, so $995 for an even bigger one looks appealing! | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 42 Registered: 4-2006  Rating: N/A |
These older 3D-DLP-TV's require checkerboard input format for 3D and I'm not aware of a Blu Ray 3D player which supports this, except the Blu Ray 3D plug-in for Total Media Theatre 3. However I might be mistaken and maybe there is hope for the PS3. On the other hand... Sony wants to sell THEIR new 3D-TV's. Christoph | ||
| Fronzel Neekburm (Fronzel) Intermediate Member Username: Fronzel Post Number: 80 Registered: 7-2009 Rating: N/A |
I just wish the Sony TVs would be real 3D TVs, not 2D TVs that are "Shutterglasses ready". Welcome back to 1989? | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 44 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
What's your definition of a 'real' 3D TV? Autostereoscopic? In what way is this more 'real' than a system which uses glasses? Autostereoscopic screens have some drawbacks, most notably resolution-loss and viewing angle. Christoph | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 206 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
panasonic BDT300/350 models support checkerboard 3d format. mitsubishi has an adapter for their sets that converts 3d bluray to checkerboard format. | ||
| Philip Heggie (Pheggie) Member Username: Pheggie Post Number: 42 Registered: 12-2006 Rating: N/A |
Samsung LED backlit 3dtv's support row interlaced, column interlaced and checkerboard through HDMI, DVI at 1680x1050 resolution | ||
| Fronzel Neekburm (Fronzel) Advanced Member Username: Fronzel Post Number: 81 Registered: 7-2009 Rating: N/A |
Yeah i would only call autostereoscopic TVs a "3D TV". We have had shutterglasses in the 80s and they worked with normal TVs and noone came to the idea to bundle it with a TV and then call it "3D TV". Why the big players now try to sell shutter glasses as the world revolution in 3D is beyond my understanding. Nice that they have 120 Hz. But that some can convert 3D formats into frame sequential barely is the revolution they are trying to sell. I am aware that parralax barrier displays suffer from limited angle of view and "halfed" resolution, but I'd rather like to see more advancement in that sector or at least some head mounted displays with HD resolution. Seriously - I was disappointed when i got to know all new 3D TVs are simply 120 Hz TVs with better firmware and a pair of shutter glasses. The high prices for these devices can barely be justified in my eyes. I am not against shutter glasses, i am just against marketing it as "the miracle of 2010" like some manufacturers do. The bright side is that enough people seem to fall for it and in the end it means more blockbusters in 3D for all of us, but some real revolution would be nice... | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 45 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
You are correct, that by this definiton every old CRT TV and monitor would be a 3D-device. On the other hand the companies need to sell stuff to stay in the business and maybe need this marketing mambo jumbo. Furthermore there's a difference between a plasma, lcd or dlp which supports shutterglasses and such which do not and this distinction must be made clear. The 120Hz are not just "nice". The 50/60 Hz of old TV-shutterglasses were just unbearable! The resolution was very poor also. Autostereo displays which cut resolution "just into half" usually have 1 sweet spot for 1 viewer. Multi-viewer autostereo displays cut resolution and light in even smaller fragments. 1920x1080 at 120Hz almost ghost-free on a Plasma and soon on DLP is at least a small revolution. Christoph | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 207 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
i never found the CRT stuff unbearable except for the very first time I hooked it all up...i was watching journey/center of the earth in field-sequential on my old CRT the other day and it occured to me that the flickering wasn't in the least bit annoying--guess I got used to it...of course i do prefer my flicker-free DLP because of the increased screen size and there is no perceived flicker to get used to! | ||
| Fronzel Neekburm (Fronzel) Advanced Member Username: Fronzel Post Number: 82 Registered: 7-2009 Rating: N/A |
Well i also did not found my 1989 equip "unbearable", but of course 120 Hz is totally flicker-free. However, it is far from being "whoa finally 3D!". 100 Hz TVs are already out since decades - the 20 Hz more don't really make much difference, but the positive side is that we finally got somewhat of a standard. That they are HD was obviously less of a surprise, while i of course do welcome 3D in 1080p, it would have been a joke if they were like "the new 3D wonder, now in NTSC, who wants HD anyways"? But i don't think any sub-1080p TVs are selling too well in 2010 anyways. AUtostereoscopic displays have not advanced in any way within the past 7 years. I am still using my Sharp RD1-3D which features a 1024x768 switchable parallax barrier display, with 3D on you only have 512x768 x 2 but imho it still looks great today. This laptop is from 2003 and to be honest 7 years ago i thought like "Whoa this is the revolution, in 2005 they'll prolly release holographic screens or so." Well now 7 years later SOny, Samsung and co show the world the revolutionary 3D TVs and i was like "Whoa, finally a perfect parallax barrier display or better!" and when i see the first people in stores happily trying them out they wear what from a distance i thought were my 1989 shutter glasses. Wow! Seriously what will be the 3D revolution of 2020? Red/Green anaglyph glasses? Don't take my disappointment too serious. I kinda get over it that in 2010 parallax barrier displays still have a crap angle of view, bad resolution and unbearable sweet spots (Yeah i fell for the Fuji V1 display), and that the world is rather into glasses. But if everyone loves wearing glasses for watching a movie then why can't i get a cool VR helmet or at least video HMD with HD res? Well yeah i love bitchin, its kinda my hobby. I guess I'll just refrain from buying a 3000 bucks TV with included (or not, lol) shutter glasses and wait untill they either become cheap as a bag of chips or come up with something else. Anyways, i really got over it as the sweetness is that Hollywood has finally taken the ball and the latest 3D movies really look great and so many are already announced, making this the golden age of 3D already (well, movie wise). I still cross my thumbs that autostereoscopic displays advance a bit. I was able to take a peek at the philips 5000+ Euro autostereoscopic display and it already had a tad better angle of view and more and better sweetspots (And it does "only" half" the resolution although it offers several halfway usable sweetspots.). Seriously if it was halfway affordable I'd buy it to pass the time waiting for a kick-ass one. Oh well how did Rick sing? "Never gonna give you up..." PS: Christoph if you read this: Any chance the ftp could get back up? or at least the files? Me and some otehrs were really sad as some of the pacthes for games can not be found ANYWHERE any more. I can host files for you if traffic/space is an issue. | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi, I'll look into the FTP thing. Regarding TV at 60Hz - it's usable for some time, but I think it was never mass-market-compatible. Furthermore I live in Europe and we got 50Hz only. Regarding HMD's - they are too heavy. They block you from your environment (I constantly have to lift them to get a look on my keyboard and monitor and stuff and I bump into things on my desk or worse). The micro-displays have an economics of scale issue with too little numbers produced, strong optics are required to get a good field of view. The optics are either expensive or give eyestrain or both. You have a wire. There may be latest generation HMD's which are really good, but they may be targeted at the prof. market and have a price. Regarding movies - there are too many converted or to-be-converted movies in the pipeline. Christoph | ||
| Christoph Bungert (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
I restored most of the links on http://stereo3d.com/files.htm#files | ||
| Fronzel Neekburm (Fronzel) Advanced Member Username: Fronzel Post Number: 83 Registered: 7-2009 Rating: N/A |
About HMDs - i never had much issues with being unable to see my surroundings. I usually use it fro gaming/watching movies and then i sit down and dont move much. However, i most often use my old 1995 i-glasses PC which are semi-transparent, so if you use the "video-Mute" button they are like tinted sunglasses, i sometimes use that to grasp a bottle of coke while watching a movie. ALso although i collect HMDs i have really few that are "heavy". The only one which is really "bad" due to its weight is the cybermaxx as it puts way too much weight on the nose. The VFX-1/VFX-3D are also heavy but well balanced. I wish i-glasses would make a "HD" version. I thought these little screen would become cheaper as they are also used in projectors which became quite mass market products? The only "official" movies i know of as conversions are "Titanic" and "clash of the titans". Clash of the titans is just not my kind of movie, im prolly too old for that. And about Titanic i think it will be great although bein a conversion as James cameron is a perfectionist, i dont think he'd release it when its crap. The recent 3D movies which were 3D animated all surprised me very positively, "Monster vs aliens", "CLoudy with a chance on meatballs", "How to train your dragon" were all excellent 3D and although i do not like "kids movies" i seriously enjoyed them. And thanks so much Christoph for the links. <3 <3 <3 Hi-Octane ROCKS in 3D... =) Thank you so much!!!! | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 210 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Alice in Wonderland is also a 2D->3D conversion. |
